Padawanbater2
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Should we continue to try to take over the Democratic party from within, or should we start an entirely new party of our own?
What's The Correct Way Forward For Progressives?
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Fogdog
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why not do both? I suggest starting a third party and just take over the Democratic party and fold one or the other when you've achieved your inevitable victory.
KillerIndica
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Kill all Democrats, republicans and libertarians.
Fogdog
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that would work
st0wandgrow
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Start a new party. There are a lot of people that don’t identify with either party and are sick of the bullshit.
Jimdamick
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Start a 3rd party in the US?
Where would that lead us? Nowhere, because the average American voter can't decide what to do now with only 2 decisions .
Just a waste of time (ask Bernie)
As far as taking "over" the Democratic party, who would take it over?
ANTIFA, or straight up Communists/Socialists?
What has to happen is that you have to have an IQ above 60 in order to vote, which would have reduced Trump voters by half, and saved the USA.
There's nothing wrong with the Democratic party, it's just that the American people are too fucking stupid to appreciate their goals
Fogdog
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I was addressing the Sanders crowd. If you listen to what tty, pad, sky and a few others say, they are absolutely convinced that they know all that needs to be done to win. Shoot, if I were as certain as they are about Bernie, I'd run Bernie as a Republican, a Democrat and an independent. That way, I'd scoop up the liberal vote, the conservative vote, all the other votes and the election would be over by May.
ttystikk
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It worked for some guy named Abe Lincoln...
ttystikk
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Progressives took over 600 delegates to the California Democratic Party- whereupon the party invoked enough 'superdelegates' to overrule them. The Democratic Party is therefore demonstrably not Democratic and needs to be shown the door. They'll only change when it becomes clear that no one will give them money because they won't win.
Either they start responding to their base or they deserve to get tossed onto the ash heap of history.
ttystikk
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When did I say I know all that needs to be done to win?
You just can't help your strawman self, can you?
I know what must happen for America to avoid disaster, but I never said I knew how to make it happen. If I did, you can bet your furry ass I'd be doing it, foggy!
abandonconflict
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He would easily get 700 million votes.
Fogdog
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What are you talking about? You babble sir.
This is what you are sniveling about: two-thirds of the state’s delegates are allocated to elected officials in the state, That's the way it is, dude. Sanders supporters packed caucus meetings and gained a majority of those delegates. THE REST of the delegates are elected to office. Damn man. They won extra seats by packing caucus meetings. Good for them. Get some people elected, then they will call the shots. I think it's a good thing that the people who actually won elections had greater numbers of delegates than people who sneak in by packing caucuses.
This is the third time that I know of where you guys have tried to subvert the will of voters.
Fogdog
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strawman,
thanks,, a good start on my bingo card.
I am referring to you and your gang's unjustified confidence in the rightness of all things Sanders of course.
It would be good if your gang actually won elections before declaring victory. as in: "Should we continue to take over the Democratic Party". . Do you not see the unjustified arrogance in the statement? How about actually winning popular votes, rather than play shenanigans and cry foul when people who actually won elections won't just give way.
ttystikk
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So stop standing up strawmen and I'll stop calling you out on it, smogdog.
KillerIndica
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It's too late for America. Give up. America, as a nation, is too stupid to continue. Nuclear wart (sic) is probably the best option. The annihilation of the US is a subject that interests me. #FuckTheUSA #CalExit
ttystikk
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Please. Just annihilate the billionaire class and things will get back on track in a jiffy!
Fogdog
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strawdog = tty lost another argument
LOL
Elections are won by convincing enough voters to your side. There is no alternative though your gang keeps trying to cheat.
abandonconflict
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Yeah Smogdog...
Bernard is obviously the most popular entity in the entire history of evolution. Your argument suggests as a premise that he is not, therefore strawman and name-calling.
Bernard is obviously the most popular entity in the entire history of evolution. Your argument suggests as a premise that he is not, therefore strawman and name-calling.
ttystikk
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Do you EVER have anything to actually contribute?