Have you ever seen this?

[bigsteve]

My posts are mostly answering questions from posters. I try to address situations where I've been there and seen that. I don't have an agenda outside of passing on things I've encountered. I don't expect anyone to have 100% the same views as I do. What/who are you trying to help by sneering and trolling my posts? Disagreeing is fine if backed up by science or experience. Ad hominem attacks help just one thing - your ego.

Good luck, BigSteve.

 

[Kingrow1]

Disagreeing is fine if backed up by science or experience.

Yes i disagree, i have stated the science and have experience.

Then you wrote something of the opposite and you got a response

 

[Commycharb]

cool never seen that before. king grow seems to think it is a stress problem. I wonder what stresses cause it.

 

[dangledo]

Its from a fem seed so yes 100% female, still that has nowt to do with the three nodes

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This is what happens when your bud looses its apical dominance (not my picture), all them leaves make for a dreadful smoke and cure.

Many growers try to breed this but fail as it is not a breedable trait but a stress problem, willow trees have the same problem in waterlogged acidic riverbank soils, why they grow out and droop like a mofo. Most of this info is easily obtainable on google and the whorlled phyllotaxy is merely a description of leaf arrangement not anything genetic.

Enjoy....

That is called Fasciation.


Not the same as op's post

 

[Kingrow1]

That is called Fasciation.


Not the same as op's post

I add the fasciation picture to see if anyone applies higher learning, the original link was provided to me some time ago by a member that debated that this was also a relevant consideration when dealing with apical stem dominance problems. Since then i have posted the picture many times and you are the second person to point this out, welldone

Because i have not the answer to what causes apical dominance loss in marijuana and all these constant threads (obviously stress but cant pin it down much in tests) i have to cite all possible reasons. I dont write fasciation but merely hint at it so others might take an intrest and pull it up. Its hard enough for people to understand what causes apical dominance problems without getting into fasciation.

On top of this i have given theory in other threads as to why seedlings have three cotyledons and trifolates at young stages happen, this is again different to apical dominance but sufice to say after years of trying i have quite a nice scientific theory on most of theses things we see form time to time, my hermie theory is also quite a good read.

I am open to talking about any of this if you want or we can just go back to thinking everything is genetic and breedable and i can have a trileafed superstrain that dosent hermie

 

[dangledo]

I add the fasciation picture to see if anyone applies higher learning, the original link was provided to me some time ago by a member that debated that this was also a relevant consideration when dealing with apical stem dominance problems. Since then i have posted the picture many times and you are the second person to point this out, welldone

Because i have not the answer to what causes apical dominance loss in marijuana and all these constant threads (obviously stress but cant pin it down much in tests) i have to cite all possible reasons. I dont write fasciation but merely hint at it so others might take an intrest and pull it up. Its hard enough for people to understand what causes apical dominance problems without getting into fasciation.

On top of this i have given theory in other threads as to why seedlings have three cotyledons and trifolates at young stages happen, this is again different to apical dominance but sufice to say after years of trying i have quite a nice scientific theory on most of theses things we see form time to time, my hermie theory is also quite a good read.

I am open to talking about any of this if you want or we can just go back to thinking everything is genetic and breedable and i can have a trileafed superstrain that dosent hermie

Yea I don't think they're anything special

Got a link? I didn't think the two were in any way related. Which is interesting.

This plant started with three sets then grew abnormally. growing as if it topped itself. The stem was flat, (which is hard to tell in the pic) which I can NOW imagine how it could possibly be linked with a fascisted plant. Although its top grew normally




I don't know enough about either to discuss anything more than my experience of the two.

 

[Kingrow1]

Yea I don't think they're anything special

Got a link? I didn't think the two were in any way related. Which is interesting.

This plant started with three sets then grew abnormally. growing as if it topped itself. The stem was flat, (which is hard to tell in the pic) which I can NOW imagine how it could possibly be linked with a fascisted plant. Although its top grew normally

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I don't know enough about either to discuss anything more than my experience of the two.

I wasnt trying to be anything special but literally no one picks up on these topics and we just have some redundant genetic theories which scientifically stack up.

Fasciation is just a type of apical dominance in plants, it need not be related to the weed plants loosing their will to grow upwards from their apcal shoots but a key point is that in the text there are links to it being from stress, virus, disease and a couple of other things that i forget and am too lazy to google. Most of this is presented simply enough on wikipedia and i'm not suggesting anything that goes against the grain of what science knows.

Anyway its a big site, my views count for very little and really they arent even my views its just me regurgitating what ive found on google, what members have posted in some informative threads, general science and so general growing of my own.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/omg-plant-gone-crazy.448247/