Using Super Thrive Properly

[Gumplestilsken]

I have used it in the past. A drop or 2 per gallon. I did notice plants treated to much popped a seed now and again so i stopped using it.

 

[Goodweed]

The correct dosis is 1-drop x liter (weekly) for vege fase only, is all...

 

[Terpenedave]

which is it one drop or one tablespoon? anyone with experience actually using it know?

Kinda late but for others also wondering:
1 drop per cup, 1/4 tsp. per gal, and 3oz. Per 100 gal.
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Copied straight from the front label of my bottle of superthrive.

 

[marcospartida]

Hello again! Hope everyone is having a great day so far.. or a great night. Wherever your at.. hope your doing great. I know I am.

Just trying to help the noobies with some nice informative information about how to use Superthrive properly, with your cannabis plants.


Superthrive is a very very potent additive. Some people think that its nothing more than a nutrient. Well, its more than that. Superthrive contains a whole line of complete micro nutrients and mirco vitamins (such as B1) which Cannabis plants love to absorb. ST also contains many of the micro-nutrients and micro-vitamins and trace elements.. that alot of today's nutrient brands don't have.

Superthrive should only be used during the veg cycles of the cannabis plants life. You shouldn't use it during flowering, or on a plant that has started to flower.

Superthrive also contains synthetic Auxins, NAA (1-naphthaleneacetic acid) which isn't good for foliar feeding at all. However, the roots LOVE the synthetic auxins.. which helps the plant develop more bigger and more robust root systems.. therefore.. we all know that the bigger the roots.. and the more roots a plant has.. the bigger; healthier; and healthier the plant will be. More bigger roots, also means bigger more robust buds by harvest time as well. Once again, use it foliar and your plant will stretch (or if you use too much of it) too much will create freaks, not fun best place for auxins are the roots (unless you're into stretchy plants).

Also, Superthrive should only be used once.. maybe twice.. per plant. Any more doses than that, per plant.. will lead to more problems than you want.

Lastly, Superthrive has a mix ratio.. that's the exact same as if you were mixing up a batch of Molasses and water. So once again, the general rule of thumb for mixing Superthrive, is 1tbspn per gallon of water. Stick to that, and only use it once.. twice at the MAX.. and your plants will be just fine. But again, its not something you use on a weekly/monthly basis. It's just a one time (maybe two time) thing.

Oh, and before I forget.. Superthrive is also well known.. for bringing sick plants.. back to life. So, if you ever have a plant that seems sick.. or seems like its not doing very well?? Mix up a 1tbspn per gallon of water.. and give it a watering.. and within two days.. that plant will be back to life in no time.. and it will look 200% better than it did before it received the ST/h20 mix. It will make the stems more robust and stronger; it will make the plants leafs bigger.. and just overall bring the plant back to life.. only it comes back 200% healthier than it ever was.

I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion about using Superthrive with your cannabis plants. If I helped just one person, than typing this up was worth it.

If you have any other questions about the subject, feel free to send me a msg here on the site.. and I'll get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for reading everyone.

-written by GanjaLuvr (RIU.org) 2010

You are off it 1/4 teaapoons per gallon..people will fry there planta with your ratio..not gonna take advise from you sape

 

[SouthCross]

Bump. Good read

 

[kristoffolese]

Thanks for explaining that Bricktop. Appreciate it... I really didn't feel like having to explain that.. LOL.

You know, you would think some of these people would have the intelligence to use Google to do research and look up their questions instead of asking us to explain it all. Just MO though.

peace..

Kind of a dick comment... the entire POINT of this site is to exchange information. That ppl come here for info FIRST, is a good thing for the site. No need to try and make ppl trying to learn feel stupid. Especially since half the "expert" advice I see here is total bullshit. Such as the fool above advocating a tablespoon a gallon of superthrive. I call BS. No WAY you have used a table spoon a gallon with success.

 

[kristoffolese]

Thanks..

but anyhow, I recommend 1tbspn/gallon. Thanks for your input though.

peace..

I call you a liar if you insist you've hadn't success using a tablespoon a gallon.

 

[kristoffolese]

which is it one drop or one tablespoon? anyone with experience actually using it know?

It USED to be their slogan "a drop a gallon"... obviously that tends to slow down repeat business, so they diluted it a bit. It's now a drop per 4oz (they SAY a drop a cup, but then add "based on a 4oz cup"... as if anyone's using 4oz cups, but whatever lol), or 1/4teaspoon a gallon. You can go as high as 1tsp per gallon, that's what I use at transplant. Otherwise, just the 1/4 teaspoon/gallon in veg. Never tried it in flower, so I can't speak to lengthening flowering times. It would surprise me, though.

 

[Raven Heart]

Hi,

It's not often that I see a forum question that spans the years like this one, and is still actively being added to.

I am the true hobbyist grower. My first "crop" gave me more weed than I will use over the next year, but this plant is just SO much more fun to grow than anything else I have grown indoors that I have just kept going, kept growing...

I have had a bottle of Superthrive on my shelf for months, and I am experimenting with it on my current "graduating class" of 6 plants. All my current "girls" started with seeds from Seedsman. I have two of the blueberry fems they give away as freebies, also one Barney's Farm Pineapple Chunk, two Eva's Gipsy Haze, and one "Anubis." I suppose I should have set up proper control / experimental conditions, superthriving one of each of the paired plants and leaving the other untreated, but as I said, I was feeling very experimental, so I abandoned that part of caution and superthrived all six. Okay, so I also compensated by honoring the "less is more" principle, and added just two small drops to a gallon of water, and giving each plant pot one mixing cup, about 250 ml, of that solution... but then threw caution to the wind again by dosing them twice, with about 10 days between the doses... I also have two largish Candida-1 plants that I am vegging even though they are already a good meter tall, and gave one of them a "little taste" of the additive the other day with that second dosing, too early to see what impact it will have.

Anyway, it's an interesting visual that the younger plants are presenting me with now. I am getting "Frankenleaves" of enormous proportion, with a leaf span bigger than my hand, a few of those leaves approaching 6 inches in length, very thick and woody stems for plants so young, and overall squat, ground-hugging plants. (If that property persists, in future I might be superthriving other strains that tend to grow tall, to "check and balance" that feature and keep them from crashing into my LEDs when they hit flower stage.)

Also, and I have never seen this reported on any forum and am attributing it to the superthrive, on three of the plants, the two blueberries and the pineapple chunk, I have some but not all leaves turning themselves near-vertical relative to the LED lights instead of the usual horizontal to maximize light capture... lol, have I induced a kind of "tripping" on these plants, I wonder? Like the time I poured a quart of cheap wine in a bucket of brine with two lobsters waiting for the pot, to anesthetize them, and they started swimming in a loopy way, have I gotten my plants drunk?

It's reminding me of this H.G. Wells science fiction story about a farm in rural England that's taken over by some unseen alien presence. The farmer finds that both his plants and also his livestock start growing in truly gargantuan proportions for no reason he can identify... lol, but in the Wells story, everything he grows turns out to be inedible by humans, he was just being used for some alien species' purposes. We shall see. Meantime, this curious little monkey (me) is DONE with using this additive on this graduating class. I will try to stay with this narrative and keep this readership informed.

RH

 

[kristoffolese]

Hi,

It's not often that I see a forum question that spans the years like this one, and is still actively being added to.

I am the true hobbyist grower. My first "crop" gave me more weed than I will use over the next year, but this plant is just SO much more fun to grow than anything else I have grown indoors that I have just kept going, kept growing...

I have had a bottle of Superthrive on my shelf for months, and I am experimenting with it on my current "graduating class" of 6 plants. All my current "girls" started with seeds from Seedsman. I have two of the blueberry fems they give away as freebies, also one Barney's Farm Pineapple Chunk, two Eva's Gipsy Haze, and one "Anubis." I suppose I should have set up proper control / experimental conditions, superthriving one of each of the paired plants and leaving the other untreated, but as I said, I was feeling very experimental, so I abandoned that part of caution and superthrived all six. Okay, so I also compensated by honoring the "less is more" principle, and added just two small drops to a gallon of water, and giving each plant pot one mixing cup, about 250 ml, of that solution... but then threw caution to the wind again by dosing them twice, with about 10 days between the doses... I also have two largish Candida-1 plants that I am vegging even though they are already a good meter tall, and gave one of them a "little taste" of the additive the other day with that second dosing, too early to see what impact it will have.

Anyway, it's an interesting visual that the younger plants are presenting me with now. I am getting "Frankenleaves" of enormous proportion, with a leaf span bigger than my hand, a few of those leaves approaching 6 inches in length, very thick and woody stems for plants so young, and overall squat, ground-hugging plants. (If that property persists, in future I might be superthriving other strains that tend to grow tall, to "check and balance" that feature and keep them from crashing into my LEDs when they hit flower stage.)

Also, and I have never seen this reported on any forum and am attributing it to the superthrive, on three of the plants, the two blueberries and the pineapple chunk, I have some but not all leaves turning themselves near-vertical relative to the LED lights instead of the usual horizontal to maximize light capture... lol, have I induced a kind of "tripping" on these plants, I wonder? Like the time I poured a quart of cheap wine in a bucket of brine with two lobsters waiting for the pot, to anesthetize them, and they started swimming in a loopy way, have I gotten my plants drunk?

It's reminding me of this H.G. Wells science fiction story about a farm in rural England that's taken over by some unseen alien presence. The farmer finds that both his plants and also his livestock start growing in truly gargantuan proportions for no reason he can identify... lol, but in the Wells story, everything he grows turns out to be inedible by humans, he was just being used for some alien species' purposes. We shall see. Meantime, this curious little monkey (me) is DONE with using this additive on this graduating class. I will try to stay with this narrative and keep this readership informed.

RH

Great post... entertaining writing style Still reading, but wanted to throw that bone

 

[Raven Heart]

Great post... entertaining writing style Still reading, but wanted to throw that bone

Thank you. My doc recommended a low-flame, low trash-talking, high "keep 'em laughing" diet to me. Bones are definitely welcome. (I bury them in my weed pots and let the plants forage them for the calcium.)

Yeah, this batch of plants belong on that farm in the Wells story. A few, not all but a few of them, are making leaves that are thick and dark green and of a shape that says, hi, I am a mutant from Mutantville!

Hey, it's a hobby, and for me, one of the things that separates a hobby from a more serious enterprise is that, especially when you are just starting out, you give yourself permission to play, even to fuck up.

I have only been growing for a few months, and I told myself when I started that I would chalk off both the successes and the screwups of the first year to just gaining experience.

Like the seedling in my first "graduating class" that my cat half ate. My wife said, you gonna throw that one out? I said, no, let's see what happens... it recovered just fine.

Like the White Widow I was growing outdoors in a wicker basket as part of an experiment with the principles of air layering, still the prettiest plant I have grown so far, did well till I brought it in, flowered it, and accidentally gave it a good dose of a nitrogen supplement before taking off for a weekend... all the flushing I did later, all too late, poor baby never recovered.

Like the Northern Lights fems I grew outside that somehow formed the shells but not the "guts" of seeds - stayed plenty potent though - made me think, I can't be the only one in my western MA town who's growing outside, and someone around here has to have a male plant blowing pollen my way...

All grist for the experience mill. All part of the first year newbie's intro.

RH

 

[kristoffolese]

Thank you. My doc recommended a low-flame, low trash-talking, high "keep 'em laughing" diet to me. Bones are definitely welcome. (I bury them in my weed pots and let the plants forage them for the calcium.)

Yeah, this batch of plants belong on that farm in the Wells story. A few, not all but a few of them, are making leaves that are thick and dark green and of a shape that says, hi, I am a mutant from Mutantville!

Hey, it's a hobby, and for me, one of the things that separates a hobby from a more serious enterprise is that, especially when you are just starting out, you give yourself permission to play, even to fuck up.

I have only been growing for a few months, and I told myself when I started that I would chalk off both the successes and the screwups of the first year to just gaining experience.

Like the seedling in my first "graduating class" that my cat half ate. My wife said, you gonna throw that one out? I said, no, let's see what happens... it recovered just fine.

Like the White Widow I was growing outdoors in a wicker basket as part of an experiment with the principles of air layering, still the prettiest plant I have grown so far, did well till I brought it in, flowered it, and accidentally gave it a good dose of a nitrogen supplement before taking off for a weekend... all the flushing I did later, all too late, poor baby never recovered.

Like the Northern Lights fems I grew outside that somehow formed the shells but not the "guts" of seeds - stayed plenty potent though - made me think, I can't be the only one in my western MA town who's growing outside, and someone around here has to have a male plant blowing pollen my way...

All grist for the experience mill. All part of the first year newbie's intro.

RH

Ugh... pollen. Thats the one thing that sucks about growing outdoors (besides being easier to be ripped off)... you never know whats floating in the air - especially in the city.

 

[Tom Tucker 313]

Hello again! Hope everyone is having a great day so far.. or a great night. Wherever your at.. hope your doing great. I know I am.

Just trying to help the noobies with some nice informative information about how to use Superthrive properly, with your cannabis plants.


Superthrive is a very very potent additive. Some people think that its nothing more than a nutrient. Well, its more than that. Superthrive contains a whole line of complete micro nutrients and mirco vitamins (such as B1) which Cannabis plants love to absorb. ST also contains many of the micro-nutrients and micro-vitamins and trace elements.. that alot of today's nutrient brands don't have.

Superthrive should only be used during the veg cycles of the cannabis plants life. You shouldn't use it during flowering, or on a plant that has started to flower.

Superthrive also contains synthetic Auxins, NAA (1-naphthaleneacetic acid) which isn't good for foliar feeding at all. However, the roots LOVE the synthetic auxins.. which helps the plant develop more bigger and more robust root systems.. therefore.. we all know that the bigger the roots.. and the more roots a plant has.. the bigger; healthier; and healthier the plant will be. More bigger roots, also means bigger more robust buds by harvest time as well. Once again, use it foliar and your plant will stretch (or if you use too much of it) too much will create freaks, not fun best place for auxins are the roots (unless you're into stretchy plants).

Also, Superthrive should only be used once.. maybe twice.. per plant. Any more doses than that, per plant.. will lead to more problems than you want.

Lastly, Superthrive has a mix ratio.. that's the exact same as if you were mixing up a batch of Molasses and water. So once again, the general rule of thumb for mixing Superthrive, is 1tbspn per gallon of water. Stick to that, and only use it once.. twice at the MAX.. and your plants will be just fine. But again, its not something you use on a weekly/monthly basis. It's just a one time (maybe two time) thing.

Oh, and before I forget.. Superthrive is also well known.. for bringing sick plants.. back to life. So, if you ever have a plant that seems sick.. or seems like its not doing very well?? Mix up a 1tbspn per gallon of water.. and give it a watering.. and within two days.. that plant will be back to life in no time.. and it will look 200% better than it did before it received the ST/h20 mix. It will make the stems more robust and stronger; it will make the plants leafs bigger.. and just overall bring the plant back to life.. only it comes back 200% healthier than it ever was.

I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion about using Superthrive with your cannabis plants. If I helped just one person, than typing this up was worth it.

If you have any other questions about the subject, feel free to send me a msg here on the site.. and I'll get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for reading everyone.

-written by GanjaLuvr (RIU.org) 2010

http://www.holganix.com/blog/what-are-plant-auxins-and-how-do-they-affect-plant-growth

 

[Tom Tucker 313]

https://www2.estrellamountain.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/BioBookPLANTHORM.html

 

[overdose420]

Thank you for the laugh. I think the very same thing very, very often so it is nice to know someone else feels the same way.

Or how about ..somebody asked a question because they can't find it on Google ..and now the person looking for an answer has a route to find it on Google ..because that person who you were complaining about for asking decided to reach out for direct answer.. I encourage repetitive behavior in this manner that's how you learn don't Badger someone for trying to learn. good day

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Or how about ..somebody asked a question because they can't find it on Google ..and now the person looking for an answer has a route to find it on Google ..because that person who you were complaining about for asking decided to reach out for direct answer.. I encourage repetitive behavior in this manner that's how you learn don't Badger someone for trying to learn. good day

Hahaha . . .

Or how about not dusting off some ancient thread in order to argue with somebody who will likely never even see your post?

 

[Dumbguyneedshelp]

Thanks,for helping me 9 years later

 

[Skidmarkdoa]

Thanks, Didn’t know that in flowering. Good info.

 

[pahval]

You might want to do some research yourself there big fella....

Vitamin B1 (Thiamine) helps your plants use and create carbohydrates so your plants have enough energy to build strong vegetative growth and to power production of flowers and essential oils. It also facilitates your plants’ use of phosphate, which is an essential nutrient that fuels flower growth. B1 strengthens plant immune systems so they better stand up to disease and stress. B1 activates Systemic Acquired Resistance (SAR), which is the same benefit that happens in humans when a vaccination produces a pre-emptively increased immune response to future disease attacks. What’s more, B1 assists in root development so your plants intake more nutrients faster, and are more resistant to shock, transplanting, cloning.

You claim to be wise enough to know BS when you see it, then reread your post.

There are plenty of people I would consider master gardeners that swear by Superthrive based on PAST RESULTS.

You are of course entitled to your opinion. After researching it online as you suggested, I found a few others that like you, think it is a scam. But I suggest you research the benefits of B1.

All B vitamins are water-soluble, meaning that the body does not store them.

Like other B complex vitamins, thiamine is considered an "anti-stress" vitamin because it may strengthen the immune system and improve the body's ability to withstand stressful conditions. It is named B1 because it was the first B vitamin discovered.

Thiamine is found in both plants and animals and plays a crucial role in certain metabolic reactions. For example, it is required for the body to form adenosine triphosphate (ATP), which every cell of the body uses for energy.

first of all, you cannot compare benefits of b vitamin in humans as in cells... secondly, initial research done on B1 vitamin showed better root growth in lab, but later on same research said it didnt do anything, and from what i know, B1 is good for the roots in soil because it helps microorganisms around roots... no B1 is getting used by plants... plants roots only uptake macro and micro minerals, thiamine is a complex formula...

 

[pahval]

i would like to add some resources as well, since i got interested in PGRs very much, and will spend night awake researching... So far i have found this articles:

How do Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs) work on my weed - Humboldt Seeds

This insight into the world of Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs) is designed to educate and bring awareness to both the scientific and Cannabis community.

www.humboldtseeds.net

Shaggy's Guide to Hormones used in Cannabis

A work in progress As I study I post findings, so If you have something to add or find a mistake/error.... please post. The main reson we are here is to learn. The use of growth regulators in agricultural production has increased due to their positive influence on product quality. With that...

www.icmag.com

Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs) | Botany

ADVERTISEMENTS: The following points highlight the five main types of plant growth regulators. The types are: 1. Auxins 2. Gibberellins 3. Cytokinins 4. Ethylene 5. Abscissic Acid. Plant Growth Regulators: Type # 1. Auxins: Auxins (GK Auxein = to grow), isolated initially from human urine were...

www.biologydiscussion.com

Making a Medicial Marijuana Friendly PGR Regimen

The goal behind this thread is the create the best Plant Growth Regulator (PGR) regimen for my garden with the limited scientific prowess and knowledge i posses. Im going to attempt to keep it as simple as possible while also being scientific with my regimen building. The plan with each...

www.icmag.com

hope it helps... happy growing! <3