Twitter users bully woman into committing suicide for branding her homophobic

[Fogdog]

Then why the objection to the same strategy in other red states?

It wasn't a strategy in Virginia that won those seats in the state house. First, Virginia is split between R and D with trend over time tilted to D. Exit polls mostly pointed to Virginia being a referendum against Trump and the failing Republican congress. Your boy Lee rode the anti-Trump wave and didn't screw up.

Alabama is the most conservative state in the nation and there is no trend like what's been happening over time in Virginia.

Is there any hard data, surveys, opinion polls of people who say they are likely Alabama voters in the upcoming election that validates your theory of a groundswell of people who never voted before that would show up for a Social Democrat or Sanders type progressive liberal?

 

[Padawanbater2]

What about Randall Woodfin's win in Birmingham?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

I never heard of her either as the porn I like only comes from underground German & Italian distributers at this point.

Seriously she was born with a pornstar name and changed it!

Shocked she did not choose Porsche.

 

[abalonehx]

Porsche Grabapussky

 

[abandonconflict]

I'd rather drive a Volkswagen.

 

[Fogdog]

What about Randall Woodfin's win in Birmingham?

I'm sure that there are some school board races you can cherry pick to support your assertion too.

 

[Fogdog]

What about Randall Woodfin's win in Birmingham?

Is there any hard data, surveys, opinion polls of people who say they are likely Alabama voters in the upcoming election that validates your theory of a groundswell of people who never voted before that would show up for a Social Democrat or Sanders type progressive liberal?

 

[ginjawarrior]

There is absolutely no justification to that statement considering overall HIV infection rates are roughly 50% - 50% split across gay and straight.
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not sure where you get your information from there

HIV Diagnosesc
In 2016, 39,782 people were diagnosed with HIV infection in the United States. The annual number of new HIV diagnoses fell 5% from 2011 to 2015. Because HIV testing has remained stable or increased in recent years, this decrease in diagnoses suggests a true decline in new infections. The decrease may be due to targeted HIV prevention efforts. However, progress has been uneven, and diagnoses have increased among a few groups.

Gay and bisexual men are the population most affected by HIV. In 2016d:

• Gay and bisexual men accounted for 67% (26,570) of all diagnoses and 83% of HIV diagnoses among males.

Black/African Americane gay and bisexual men accounted for the largest number of HIV diagnoses (10,223), followed by Hispanic/Latino (7,425) and white (7,390) gay and bisexual men.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

ultimatly it should always be "her body, her choice"

 

[Fogdog]

34% of eligible voters voted in Alabama in 1996, ~18% of that went to Jeff Sessions. Preceding Sessions was Howell Heflin, a Democrat, who served from 1979 until 1996

Roughly 30% of the population is African American, 1.5 million people. Sessions won 786,436 votes in 1996, he won 795,606 votes in 2014

It would be extremely easy to change that district to blue, you would just have to campaign on the right policy issues and be able to articulate it in an easily digestible way like Sanders did in West Virginia and Carter did in Virginia

You know that the upcoming election is a statewide race for the Senate, don't you? It's not a district race.

Also you have again picked data in a way to support your opinion but leaves out glaring facts.

Sessions garnered 97% of the vote in 2014, in which as you say 786,000 voted in a non-presidential election year which generally sees less turnout..
In 2008, a watershed year for Democrats, Alabama voters chose the Republican Sessions by a vote of 1,305,383 people, 63% of the vote and 4.5% margin of victory.

Go ahead and look at school board elections in major cities to bolster your case but you are wrong when you say it would be extremely easy to change the state to blue.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Sessions garnered 97% of the vote in 2014

When he ran unopposed..

In 2008, a watershed year for Democrats, Alabama voters chose the Republican Sessions by a vote of 1,305,383 people, 63% of the vote and 4.5% margin of victory.

From what I've read, Vivian Figures isn't the sort of progressive leading on populist progressive ideals. More of an average Democrat. Average doesn't win. Actual progressive populism does

Go ahead and look at school board elections in major cities to bolster your case

Lee Carter won his seat running as a socialist in Virginia to the House of Delegates. Progressives who campaign on a populist platform are winning seats from local and state level, and more than likely, the federal level as soon as the midterms come. Any win in any seat is good for the progressive cause. Why try to diminish that?

but you are wrong when you say it would be extremely easy to change the state to blue.

I disagree

 

[Fogdog]

When he ran unopposed..

From what I've read, Vivian Figures isn't the sort of progressive leading on populist progressive ideals. More of an average Democrat. Average doesn't win. Actual progressive populism does

Lee Carter won his seat running as a socialist in Virginia to the House of Delegates. Progressives who campaign on a populist platform are winning seats from local and state level, and more than likely, the federal level as soon as the midterms come. Any win in any seat is good for the progressive cause. Why try to diminish that?

I disagree

Speculation. All speculation on your part.

Sessions ran against Victor Sanchez Williams, a Democrat who garnered 3% of the vote. Make me laugh by telling me it was because Williams wasn't liberal enough or he would have won.

Carter won on the coattails of Democrats overall. 14 other Democrats won seats in the Virginia house of reps and a Democrat took the governor's office. He is a good progressive lawmaker and I'm happy he won. It has almost no bearing on the upcoming senate race in Alabama.

Is there any hard data, surveys, opinion polls of people who say they are likely Alabama voters in the upcoming election that validates your theory of a groundswell of people who never voted before that would show up for a Social Democrat or Sanders type progressive liberal?

 

[legalcanada]

I'm not going to sit here and blame her for committing suicide.

when does personal responsibility come in to play? there is absolutely no one responsible for her suicide besides herself or else it would be called murder. what a fucking joke.

 

[twostrokenut]

if she were transgender this would be an entirely different discussion.

 

[legalcanada]

if we're going to blame someone we should blame society for creating these safe space snowflakes and their victim mentality in the first place. people are going to be 100% useless for everything besides complaining soon.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Is there any hard data, surveys, opinion polls of people who say they are likely Alabama voters in the upcoming election that validates your theory of a groundswell of people who never voted before that would show up for a Social Democrat or Sanders type progressive liberal?

No, because people who don't vote, normally don't vote on political opinion polls. You know that, this is a loaded question.

Woodfin's win in Birmingham and Carter's win in Virginia lend credibility to the notion that if you campaign on actual progressive values, you can win in deep red states/districts. You said opinion polls are meaningless, so here's some evidence outside opinion polls; Instances of candidates who ran on populist progressive positions who actually won their elections. And you're just trying to diminish their accomplishment because it doesn't suit your own narrative.

Sad, bud. Truly sad.

 

[Padawanbater2]

when does personal responsibility come in to play? there is absolutely no one responsible for her suicide besides herself or else it would be called murder. what a fucking joke.

Woman who encouraged boyfriend to kill himself via text is sentenced to 15 months in jail

 

[legalcanada]

Woman who encouraged boyfriend to kill himself via text is sentenced to 15 months in jail

that's different but also retarded. she directly told him to kill himself and was one of the closest people in his life, and he gave her an opportunity to stop it and she didn't. she still can not and should not be held responsible for someone elses actions.

odds are if this other girl didn't kill herself over this she would have killed herself in a few months or a couple years about something else. no one put a gun in her hand and forced her to pull the trigger. she is entirely and solely responsible for her own death.

 

[SneekyNinja]

not sure where you get your information from there



https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

ultimatly it should always be "her body, her choice"

67%

Compared to 90%+ before is statistically significant.

And she's a porn star, she should take what dick she's told to take.

She might as well have been a server and she's decided she won't serve the gay couple incase she gets HIV.

Seriously, she does all unprotected scenes but won't do a scene with a bisexual male because of the 17% chance above 50-50.

Plus the men are tested as much as the women.

And no, she didn't deserve to die but she did deserve to be called out.

 

[Padawanbater2]

that's different but also retarded. she directly told him to kill himself and was one of the closest people in his life, and he gave her an opportunity to stop it and she didn't. she still can not and should not be held responsible for someone elses actions.

odds are if this other girl didn't kill herself over this she would have killed herself in a few months or a couple years about something else. no one put a gun in her hand and forced her to pull the trigger. she is entirely and solely responsible for her own death.

Ok, thank you for your opinion. I wholeheartedly disagree

 

[Fogdog]

No, because people who don't vote, normally don't vote on political opinion polls. You know that, this is a loaded question.

Woodfin's win in Birmingham and Carter's win in Virginia lend credibility to the notion that if you campaign on actual progressive values, you can win in deep red states/districts. You said opinion polls are meaningless, so here's some evidence outside opinion polls; Instances of candidates who ran on populist progressive positions who actually won their elections. And you're just trying to diminish their accomplishment because it doesn't suit your own narrative.

Sad, bud. Truly sad.

So you have nothing but your belief. Belief without proof is a foundation of religion. Also fake conspiracy theories.

Bernie, your paragon of progressiveness attracted 13 million voters and there wasn't much to indicate those voters were new to voting. This is a counter example of your belief that a wellspring of progressive non voters are waiting for the right candidate to vote. Bernie lost.

Too funny you claim that the 2008 democratic opponent to Sessions during the best nationwide performance at the polls by democrats in decades lost by a margin of 4.5% and you say it was because she wasn't progressive liberal enough. You say this without any proof of this assertion.

This is foolish, pad. You make a claim out of thin air and then pick out a couple of obscure races to bolster your claims.

Alabama and many other states are populated by staunch right wing voters. Our job is to find ways to work with them or over time to convince them to vote on causes we want to become policies.