It's Easier To Ask For Forgiveness, Than Beg For Permission..

[ttystikk]

Okay, I guess I'll have to be more blunt since you seem oblivious to your predilection for using offensive force to get your way.

Have you ever considered that the methods used in war and the methods used to create "your utopia" are very similar ?

I never claimed to be building a utopian society. I just want to see folks get along with a maximum of freedom and a minimum of internecine violence.

 

[Rob Roy]

I never claimed to be building a utopian society. I just want to see folks get along with a maximum of freedom and a minimum of internecine violence.

I suggest you distinguish between offensive force and defensive force and realign your means in order to realize your goals.

 

[UncleBuck]

I suggest you distinguish between offensive force and defensive force and realign your means in order to realize your goals.

You call it offensive force when black people go shopping

 

[ttystikk]

I suggest you distinguish between offensive force and defensive force and realign your means in order to realize your goals.

I suggest you quit with the tired distractions and take some economics and civics courses.

 

[londonfog]

Improper assumption on your part. First of all, I've paid far in excess over the years of whatever the cost was for my kids indoctrination, so by your logic I've "overpaid".

That's not the point though. If you found out you were participating in something which featured coercion as a center piece would you ignore it or try to change or opt out of it ?

Your childs education will last a lifetime. Just like you will paying your taxes...lifetime
Thanks

 

[schuylaar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
meet Rear Admiral and Computer Scientist Grace Hooper who assisted in develop of COBOL:

 

[schuylaar]

No matter how many people agree that a thing which is intrinsically wrong is right, a thing doesn't become right by virtue of popularity or common acceptance.

this is true however perception is often said to be reality. a persons reality may be false (earth is flat) factual concensus (the earth is round) cannot be marginalized because it interferes or infringes upon someones erroneous reality.

 

[Rob Roy]

You call it offensive force when black people go shopping

Your example is misleading since it doesn't describe all of the events and appeals to emotion without considering the unintended consequences etc.

A more clear example of offensive force might be when you shat upon the floor as a teen, knowing the floor belonged to somebody else and your feces was unwelcome there.

 

[Rob Roy]

I suggest you quit with the tired distractions and take some economics and civics courses.

Funny thing about the civics course thing, waaaay back when I was entering high school it was a requisite for freshmen, except for me. I was exempted as it was deemed superfluous to what I already knew. Of course since then, I've learned being able to recite the "rules of government" doesn't mean any more than reciting prayers to a nonexistent god. Distractions to keep slaves picking cotton.

As far as economics, can you describe why you think I should take a course in something like that ? Where have you found any of my ideas lacking from a factual basis ?

 

[Rob Roy]

Your childs education will last a lifetime. Just like you will paying your taxes...lifetime
Thanks

You paint such a bleak picture.

 

[Rob Roy]

this is true however perception is often said to be reality. a persons reality may be false (earth is flat) factual concensus (the earth is round) cannot be marginalized because it interferes or infringes upon someones erroneous reality.

Agreed, truth stands alone and remains true if popular or unpopular.

 

[UncleBuck]

Your example is misleading since it doesn't describe all of the events and appeals to emotion without considering the unintended consequences etc.

A more clear example of offensive force might be when you shat upon the floor as a teen, knowing the floor belonged to somebody else and your feces was unwelcome there.

You call it offensive force when black people go shopping

 

[Rob Roy]

You call it offensive force when black people go shopping

 

[UncleBuck]

You call it offensive force when black people go shopping