going to do a coco grow and i am looking for tips

Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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She smoked real good! Real potent and heady. I bet they'd love the out of doors in Australia. Biggest buds I ever grew. I'm sure they'd be monsters under some real tropical, subtropical sun.
I've never done organic, except in the vegetable garden, I'd really like to give it a go though.
So I don't have an opinion which is better, but I know you can use coco like other hydroponic mediums and have stellar results, without having to worry about crop losses from pump failure or power outages.
 
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giglewigle

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Bakersfield said:
She smoked real good! Real potent and heady. I bet they'd love the out of doors in Australia. Biggest buds I ever grew. I'm sure they'd be monsters under some real tropical, subtropical sun.
I've never done organic, except in the vegetable garden, I'd really like to give it a go though.
So I don't have an opinion which is better, but I know you can use coco like other hydroponic mediums and have stellar results, without having to worry about crop losses from pump failure or power outages.
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cool im kinda over the hole no till thing atm so expensive here i do hate phing but shit i feel like to get good enough with organics and soil u just about need a degree where as tje coco its a matter of following instructions n shit idk im i bit bummed atm spent so mutch time learning about it learn enough 2 pull of a grow and boom some shit happens thats outside of controll well shit im gunna go fucken hard when summers over man so over the fuck around man and not having any weed
 
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higher self

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Bakersfield said:
I try to do that as well. Start my seeds a week or 2 into flower and by the time the flower room opens up I'm ready to put the new ones in.
Those Swamp Boys fems were weird maybe 2 out of the 6 pack had real vigor and the other 4 were hohum. Some serious hybrid vigor. They were heavy feeders Not 2 hazey in the final product, but still vibrant.
I also reuse my coco Not really sure if that helps or hinders
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Yeah it seem like it had some vigor to her got a few of those now. I wanted to try a few of the Nigerian crosses mainly from Top Dawg but there gone now. I always reuse my coco no matter what fertilizers were used.

I actually like coco mixed with long fiber peat, coco chips & kitty litter. Hated it at 1st because I was lazy & didnt flush it so roots did not grow well. After I properly flushed the mix it was popping with white roots. The kitty litter I use helps water retention greatly! It wicks water well so with my blumats the plants drink what they need. I have plants vegging in 5 gals that I haven’t had to water in 2 weeks since I got them setup with a water emitter.

Plain coco is cool but when the roots get big you have to water a lot more. It helps to keep the surface mulched so the tops doesnt dry out & you water unevenly.

Roger A. Shrubber said:
one of the biggest things in coco is to remember thats its NOT hydro, and its NOT soil. it has its own requirements and quirks. if you ph to 5.8, you're going to have bad Mag problems. you want to ph to 6.1.
if the maker of your coco pre charges it, you can pretty much use it without worrying about anything, if they don't you not only have to give it extra C and Mag, you have to be aware that once its full, those things all of a sudden become very easy for your plants to get, as the coco will quit absorbing it. that usually happens about the third week of flower. (at least in my experience)
pure coco is very heavy, even though it has excellent aeration. i like to mix in at least 30% perlite to aid drainage.
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Switched back to all coco & ran into those Mag issues you spoke of. I never check the Ph & my other plants in the coco mix are fine. I’ll have to start checkin my pH more as im wanting to try a dwc in the near future anyways. Thanks!
 
DTDrop

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Hey guys, sorry to randomly jump into the thread....but I have a question:

As a soil grower that has been in soil for the past ten years, I am well aware of what size I need per stage in soil...but in coco it seems you can get away with a MUCH MUCH smaller pot in every stage...(2-3 foot plants in solo cups)...Yes, I know the smaller the pot, the more frequent I will have to water, but with a res, it takes no time at all, (drain to waste).

So, I know you can rock tiny cups in veg/mid veg....but in FLOWER, what do you think would be the smallest you can flower out (a fully vegged and trained plant) in? 3 gal? 1 gal? Tinier?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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depends on your goal. if you're trying to do a sog, you could probably get away with half gallon pots. you can get away with smaller pots in coco, but you're giving up some of the advantages by doing so. one thing thats the same in coco and soil, the bigger the roots, the bigger the fruits. you can grow plants in 1 gallon pots, and get decent results, but the same plant in a 5 gallon pot will yield a lot more.
being able to do something doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.
 
DTDrop

DTDrop

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Great points.

My main goal in coco is yield. Well, a large yield with the least amount of media/plants possible. 1 plant per 4x4. Plants are well trained, (60-100 tops)

So, maybe like a 3-5 gal?
 
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giglewigle

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heres my grow so far had a th bomb but i pulled it ig got some white widows only gunna show one cuse the rest still look fucked up im using a 1 part nutrien for coco along with some root mass and growth inhancer also same compeny an a humic an fulvic only use the suplements once cuse only got hem yesterday i think i ver watered two but thay seem pretty happy 20171229_123731.jpg 20171224_232719.jpg 20171219_095606.jpg last pic was taken on the 19th i ph at 5.8 but sometimes i say fuck it on 5.9 im till getting this down but phing is no longer a pain in the assjust gotta get down the watering amounts and times an i rekon im sweet what do use think
 
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giglewigle

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
after three years of growing in coco, i can tell you, you want your ph to center around 6.1. if you ph to 5.8 you're going to get lockouts.
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hay man u rekon thay look healty growth wise i always make some kind of mistake and thay look stunted but these for me look good maybe a little light green bjt growth waise im really happy seing as around when thay got the first true leaves i light bleached em i run led with 2 switches both on is bloom one of em on is veg but i thing there where thay should be and i rekon theve recovered exept for the ones i dident show thay look healty now but the leaves grew a bit fucked up lol
 
Huckster79

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Use breathable containers. Air/smart pot type. I make by own with drilled out buckets or simply clothes hampers or milk crates lined with weedblock fabric like you put under mulch in a flower bed, they work great even with straight coco. Super cheap.

Im expirimenting right now with a method called Passive Plant Killer method. Its a terrible name as its not passive nor does it kill plants. It really takes you closer to hydroponics abd was cheap to build. 10 gallon low flat tote filled with nutes, plant container has a throat piece from a sink off the bottom, its covered in screen/weedblick fabric as you make sure it too is filled with coco (or coco blend or other fast breathing medium) thats put on the container of nutes. So plant can wick nutes if need be, a cheap tiny pump on timer gives container 1 minute of nute mix out of the lower container every 2 hours... some guys do amazing stuff with it and its freeing as your not running watering can constantly.
 
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giglewigle

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Huckster79 said:
Use breathable containers. Air/smart pot type. I make by own with drilled out buckets or simply clothes hampers or milk crates lined with weedblock fabric like you put under mulch in a flower bed, they work great even with straight coco. Super cheap.

Im expirimenting right now with a method called Passive Plant Killer method. Its a terrible name as its not passive nor does it kill plants. It really takes you closer to hydroponics abd was cheap to build. 10 gallon low flat tote filled with nutes, plant container has a throat piece from a sink off the bottom, its covered in screen/weedblick fabric as you make sure it too is filled with coco (or coco blend or other fast breathing medium) thats put on the container of nutes. So plant can wick nutes if need be, a cheap tiny pump on timer gives container 1 minute of nute mix out of the lower container every 2 hours... some guys do amazing stuff with it and its freeing as your not running watering can constantly.
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iv got 2 5 gals im gunna get some more tho soundss like a good methoud im probly just goinf 2 do blue mats
 
Huckster79

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Id definetly airate them still, just drill the shit out of em put the weed block i the bucket... i do this from beer cup on up makes transplant a brease and stress free for her as they come out easy and you dont tear any roots up as they dont twist around tbe bucket.
 
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giglewigle

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Huckster79 said:
Id definetly airate them still, just drill the shit out of em put the weed block i the bucket... i do this from beer cup on up makes transplant a brease and stress free for her as they come out easy and you dont tear any roots up as they dont twist around tbe bucket.
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true might add some holes can always wrap somthing on the out side
 
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giglewigle

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so glad i went with hy gen i use a 1 part grow nute and i recemtly got more of there line up i got there omegazime and there humic and fulvic when i mixed em up last night ph was 7 to start once i aded every thing it dropped the ph to 6.1 fuck yes dident even have 2 ph it cheering ay lol
 
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