Crossbreading question

[apasunee]

If you cross,,, lets say,,, The pollen from a white widow plant to seed a blueberry plant,,, Will the seeds I get from the blueberry now be a blueberry widow or do I have to go thru this proccess again or what????

 

[apasunee]

WOW,, I really expected more from the advanced section...

 

[MisterNiceGuy]

You go the idea man. I am not the most experienced breeder but that's the basics which is prolly why no one answered. Of course you will cross the strains this way. Pollen from a male spread during the right times or at all during flowering will induce seeds in the female. when the seeds are ripe pick'em out.
-Mister Nice GUY

 

[gangjababy]

are you talking about an actual blueberry plant? If so this should be in the beg section not the advanced cultivaion section! It is impossible to cross breed, in a garden tomatoes don't pollinate cucumbers...

 

[MisterNiceGuy]

are you talking about an actual blueberry plant? If so this should be in the beg section not the advanced cultivaion section! It is impossible to cross breed, in a garden tomatoes don't pollinate cucumbers...

for some reason I don't think that's what he meant. He did say blueberry and widow. White widow, sounds like two strains to me. If someone made it that long on this site thinkin that he shouldn't be growin anything.

 

[apasunee]

WOW, really?????????

 

[apasunee]

I mean 2800 posts and thats what you say,,, WOW........

 

[MisterNiceGuy]

haha really though
kinda funny
oh and jus be careful, don't cross too many strains without thinkin about sativa strength and indica strength. DO some more research into breeding you will love it.

 

[apasunee]

I plan on it,, thanx....

 

[gangjababy]

I wasn't sure what blueberry you were talking about!
The first generation (f1) will show a lot of variation, in order to stabalize it you will need to backcross it to the blueberry or ww depending on what you are going for. After a generation or two it will be stabalized...

 

[ontariogrower]

now if you were to cross to bbxww from the f1 batch male and female what would you get more stable or more unstable

 

[gangjababy]

from my limited knowledge of breeding you would cross the most desireable male and female out of that batch, and then pop those seeds and do the same thing, narrowing down the gene pool until you get only a few phenotypes

 

[born2killspam]

Yes they'd be technically blueberry widow right after the cross, if you jumped the gun and gave your first hybridization a strain name.. It wouldn't be much of a strain though (a good name at this point would be 'craps shooter') until you back-bred generations of progeny seeds with the original parent possessing the traits (alleles) you're trying to stabilize into your strain.. The longer the selection process, the more homogenous your strain will be.. After so many back-breeding generations, once a decent stability has been established, breeders may introduce some fresh genetics with desired traits similar to their own strain.. Often progeny from a separate breeding program run concurrently with sibling seeds.. Once the new genetics are introduced, back-breeding starts again, until virtually all offspring are a homogenous phenotype..
Basically, if you have a huge barn that you can dedicate to breeding weed, in 5-10 years you could have your own high end strain..

 

[littlegrower2004]

i got some aussie blues plants going from amsterdam seed co and some bc bud depot ww and was thinking of crossing them and making blue widow haha..the blue is 90 % sativa so should that be the male or female in the relationship..does it even matter????

 

[5nug]

Hey Im just about to start a breeding campaign to see what I can come up with. I plan on putting some good time into this, for i have a lot of it on my hands.

My question is this, what should i expect when I inbreed plants, in a sense that I am breeding two different strains if I cross the first gen back with mom or dad (depending on phenotypes) should I expect mutant inconclusive results or will it be gold?

 

[born2killspam]

Your first cross-back will lessen the number of radicals, but they will surely still exist.. Alot depends on how true-breeding your original parents are..
If you pop 100 hybrid seeds for a hobby breeding program, and you get 10+ phenos (most with alot of pros/cons combined), you really gotta ask your self "Where the hell do I start?"
Set out some basic goals.. Decide 'which' traits you want to be true-breeding in your strain.. If you try to focus on too many at once, you're bound to fail them all..
So decide, is flavor more important than yield? Is potency more important than finishing date, is odour level more important than compactness etc etc..

 

[5nug]

alright, this is excellent

 

[StealthyGardener]

You're on the right track assuming both varieties are cannabis. The greater the genetic difference, the greater the variations in the kids. According to botanists, it takes about 5 generations for a cross to stabalize. The product of your effort is generation #1 of your new phenotype. Backcrossing will increase the dominant characteristics of the strain that contributed twice. Keep going. Select seeds from the best plant from generation #1 according to your criteria - potency, height, bushiness, etc. for the next crop. This process of selection will result in more and more consistent plants from 1 gen to the next.

 

[born2killspam]

The number of generations needed to stabilize will also depend on the similarity of the parent traits.. You can draw up a Punnett Square to get a rough idea of how many back breeding generations will be required.. That calculation won't take intermediate crosses into consideration though, and they can be quite extensive when starting with vastly differing gene pools.. Remember Mendel hybridized plants differing in single/few traits in his research.. As he differed the parentage he found that intermediate crosses were more frequent.. (By intermediate crosses I mean something analogous to Skunky+Fruity->Skunkyish/Fruityish rather than skunky OR fruity) [Which flavor is usually dominant between those two anyways? I really prefer skunky weed with the undertones/aftertaste of 'organic soil's smell' if that makes sense to ppl..]

Edit: 5nug, I don't know what you intend to cross, but in the case of Apunsee, BBxWW is a cross of vastly different root genetics.. WW=BrazillianxIndian, and BB=AfganxThai.. A cross of this nature should bring alot of general vitality, and be generally good for genetics in general, but will likely take more work to stabilize than a hybridization that is almost as much a distant back-cross as it is a hybridization..

 

[5nug]

to start off im using a type of chronic (skunk x, northern lights, ak) and crossing with the seed of a bud we call airbud that has unknown chemistry. in the airbud trials the buds have been big, fluffy and sweet tasting. I have been reading up on chronic beyond what it says on the seed package, and even asksing other growers about it. One guy on here said that his only problem with it were the buds were so big and heavy that the stems couldnt support them by themselves.

I figure it is a good place to start but i would like to find some other varieties and cultivars