i've pulled some meat out of the freezer that was burnt pretty bad. all grey and dry.
you have to leave it open to the air. just hang it from a rack in the freezer.
Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin
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you have to leave it open to the air. just hang it from a rack in the freezer.
GoodFriend
Lumberjack
oh... we're talking about freeze drying?
yeah no completely different
... my pops works for an herbal remedy company (he's a naturopathic doc), and the companies -big- thing is freeze dried herbs in capsul form... and there's all sorts of neat things about that...
one of the neatest being that they've started making something they call "new water" (or maybe nu-water, but that's just to be fancy i think)... which is basically the water that's extrapolated from whatever it is they are freeze drying... its undamaged, clean water that is left with a small amount of the essence from which it came.... real interesting stuff...
plus i guess there are benefits to imbibing herbs that are freeze dried... something to do with how their chemical makeup remains blah blah blah i dunno i'd really have to research it more to tell ya anything real important about it... but i think freeze dried mj could probably make a fairly large impact on the mmj scene...
maybe
or not
??
yeah no completely different
... my pops works for an herbal remedy company (he's a naturopathic doc), and the companies -big- thing is freeze dried herbs in capsul form... and there's all sorts of neat things about that...
one of the neatest being that they've started making something they call "new water" (or maybe nu-water, but that's just to be fancy i think)... which is basically the water that's extrapolated from whatever it is they are freeze drying... its undamaged, clean water that is left with a small amount of the essence from which it came.... real interesting stuff...
plus i guess there are benefits to imbibing herbs that are freeze dried... something to do with how their chemical makeup remains blah blah blah i dunno i'd really have to research it more to tell ya anything real important about it... but i think freeze dried mj could probably make a fairly large impact on the mmj scene...
maybe
or not
??
Seamaiden
Well-Known Member
The thing with freeze-drying, and using a home freezer, from what I've read of the links and information both men have provided here, is the removal of water from the tissues before it has a chance to become crystallized and do that damage. I'm afraid to email for a quote on one of those lyophilizing thangs. LIE-oh-FIL-ih-ZAY-shun. That's how I think it's pronounced.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Maybe the answer is to not 'freeze' dry but merely 'cool' dry. Perhaps keep temp at 1-2C with a lot of air circ?
Dunno, but I can't test this one. My housemate flatly vetoed the idea of trying to do this in our kitchen fridge!
Dunno, but I can't test this one. My housemate flatly vetoed the idea of trying to do this in our kitchen fridge!
GoodFriend
Lumberjack
so go sell an ounce or two and by a seperate freezer just for pot freezing!Dunno, but I can't test this one. My housemate flatly vetoed the idea of trying to do this in our kitchen fridge!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
heh, a decent fridge costs about $1100 around here, more than a couple oz, but I appreciate your thought. 
GoodFriend
Lumberjack
fine.... a qp
you'll have that within 2 weeks =]
any other 'scueses?
you'll have that within 2 weeks =]
any other 'scueses?
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
yeah, nowhere to put another fridge.
GoodFriend
Lumberjack
ugh do i have to do all the thinking for ya!?yeah, nowhere to put another fridge.
wait why are we trying freezdrying??? 3-4 days is too long a wait?
sorry, i forgot how we got to this point in the discussion, i know, good job me!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Well, we kinds went down the rosy garden path of what causes there are of THC breakdown into isomers CBD & CBN, got on a nitrogen atmosphere bud dryer, then got sidetracked on freeze drying...
GoodFriend
Lumberjack
oh right right right...
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
fuckin' stoners, can't stay on topic fer nuts. 
cHiEf04grwer
Well-Known Member
I completely agree, i just harvested 4 branches off one plant and got 1.75 Oz on it. So after the curing is over probably around 1 - 1.25 oz. I used the FDD harvestin Method and i noticed after i trimmed the buds off the stalk and Mason Jar'd them, after 4-5 days even they started to take a completely different appearence, in a good way of course...
Seamaiden
Well-Known Member
Yes. Immediate gratification is the goal here. And I want some of what you're smoking. My memory actually gets worse when I'm dry (as I am, with the exceptions of the girls I'm sampling so I can decide who gets to be a mom and who gets to die).wait why are we trying freezdrying??? 3-4 days is too long a wait?
sorry, i forgot how we got to this point in the discussion, i know, good job me!
ACK! I just had another idea! (I'm worse than Lucille Ball, and get into just as much trouble.)
Those packets of silicon that are used to keep electronics parts and the like dry. I bet those latch onto HELLA water molecules, and could speed drying even more, or....? Yeah? You with me here? Gotta Google.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
You're thinking of silica gel, which you can buy in tins from craft shops for drying flowers etc. It works pretty damn good for drying flowers!
pssssst- small Australianism hint, 'hella' is essentially synonymous with 'amazingly' i.e. 'hella good.'
You growing any tobacco? I'm not.
THC breaks down not just with exposure to light and heat but time post harvest. Drying quicker is better for potency. Fresher weed is better weed.
You're thinking of silica gel, which you can buy in tins from craft shops for drying flowers etc. It works pretty damn good for drying flowers!
pssssst- small Australianism hint, 'hella' is essentially synonymous with 'amazingly' i.e. 'hella good.'
You growing any tobacco? I'm not.
THC breaks down not just with exposure to light and heat but time post harvest. Drying quicker is better for potency. Fresher weed is better weed.
you're slipping now. my weed is not any less potent because it hangs for 5 days.
there is a lot more to it than just THC. what about flavor? the green has to cure to bring out the oils in the plant. the oils, different then THC, are a lot of where your smells come from. there is even new studies showing that the smells alone can be beneficial; ie: aroma therapy. i feel the drying and curing process is more focused on smells and flavors. i've never considered potency when drying. it kinda is what it is. IMO. yes, of course, exposure will degrade THC, but i don't think it reacts like the sun on a vampire. it has to be long term exposure to air or light. or repeated exposure.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Of course not, but the previous poster was talking about years for curing tobacco, that's essentially what I was addressing.
I agree.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Dude, please don't stress! We're all on the same track here.