The Democratic Party Autopsy Report

Rob Roy

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Besides you gagging on my cock, you mean?

You have a vivid imagination. I don't swing that way, but if you want to fantasize about me, that's okay.
Your thoughts are your "property" and I respect your right to think whatever you wish.

Rather than thinking about having sex with me, maybe you could focus on those questions I asked you. You know the ones you ran away from?
 

Rob Roy

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Old hat arguments. The reason liberals support a public sector is exactly because of incentive driven behavior. There is an incentive to collectivize. Science explains why people are innately social beings and why humans historically created thousands of civilizations.

@Rob Roy, here is your reasoning for authority over people's private property by a third party: private property rights are under the larger umbrella of franchise (nation) owned collectively via a democratic republic. The majority of people have a right to decide the laws of this nation, they are the authority. The incentives are obvious and apparent by what has been accomplished under this system. The founding fathers created it that way and did a pretty damn good job. Compromise and checks and balances assure (or at least promote) fairness and peace. A person's private property is no longer completely private once they enter the open market; their property is commercialized, thus serving a different purpose. Your idea that this is rape and theft is incorrect. It would be immorral and unjust for you to force your way into somebodies home, steal from them, rape them, etc. as both you are not rightfully compensating them nor is that property part of an open market and subject to commercial regulations. Are you feigning not understand the nuance? I'm sensing disingenuity.

So if the majority decides forced labor is okay, you're good with it ?

When you say "founding fathers" do you mean the slave owning ones too?

I'm not feigning anything. I own myself and don't own others. Nobody does.
 

Rob Roy

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Listen, dumdum; I'm saying I've been down this rabbit hole with you way too many times already. It's stupid and tedious and I don't take you seriously enough to give a fuck about your loony theories for how society ought to be structured. Get the fuck off the grid and leave us sensible folk to our machinations. Thanks. You'll be happier too.
Actually you've run from my questions and quickly go to insults since your arguments are contradictory dead ends ending in your fantasizing about mouth raping my furry mouth. Which isn't very nice.
 

Rob Roy

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so then what are the merits of denying service to black people?

make sure to take trump's tiny flaccid dick out of your mouth before answering.

To deny a person an association with you is the right of every person. Since you own yourself, but others don't you. Pretty fucking basic, numb nuts.

If you don't believe me, go to Wendy's for a couple hours and perform a fecal masterpiece but before you vacate "our house" tell your old lady, I'll be by to erm "associate" with her, whether she likes it or not. I mean what are the merits of denying me this servicing?
 

Rob Roy

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how can we persuade you to not hate black people to the point of wanting to harm them by denying them service?
I don't hate people based on their race. Never have.

How can we convince you to use a toilet instead of the floor when visiting Wendy's ?
 

Dr. Who

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I see the Repulsivelicans dying a slow death under Trump.

The Dems only need to adjust their candidate choice's and platform to regain power in congress. Much less the White House.

Yet so many are blinded by outright lies and the never ending promise of trickle down economic's (never has worked) with tax cuts to the top.

Who care's anyway. We'll be in a nuke pissing contest with N Korea soon enough.

Did you know that when being briefed on our nuclear capability's. Trump said, "What do mean I can't use them?"

God help us all!
 

Rob Roy

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I see the Repulsivelicans dying a slow death under Trump.

The Dems only need to adjust their candidate choice's and platform to regain power in congress. Much less the White House.

Yet so many are blinded by outright lies and the never ending promise of trickle down economic's (never has worked) with tax cuts to the top.

Who care's anyway. We'll be in a nuke pissing contest with N Korea soon enough.

Did you know that when being briefed on our nuclear capability's. Trump said, "What do mean I can't use them?"

God help us all!

Harry Truman, a Democrat is the only President to ever knowingly murder innocent women and children using nuclear weapons. Do you suppose Trump has a love boner for Truman or do you think Presidents in general just aren't very bright?
 

SunnyJim

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remove laws which prevent free association by willing people.
Translation: remove child protection laws which would currently criminalize an old man's determination to groom and manipulate young girls into engaging in sexual activity with him. Brutally sick and terrifying stuff for most parents out there.

How does this help a black person who is being denied service from an employee/business owner?

To deny a person an association with you is the right of every person. Since you own yourself, but others don't you.
You have the right to be racist and ignore black people in your private life, but not if you are in business/an employee in the service industry and your private feelings lead you to denying that service to someone based on race, religion, or national origin.

Thank goodness for The Civil Rights Act of 1964. Denying service to a black person, even though you're 'privately' racist, remains a federal crime. Still some way to go for LGBTQ rights on a federal level though.
 

Dr. Who

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@Rob Roy

The whole A bomb thing back then was totally unknown by anybody in power, or basically even those that made them. Till they lit a fuse the first time. At that point, the builders wanted to simply give a demonstration and say " This could happen to you."

He wanted to end the war without the heavy loss of American lives. It would have been bad to invade the Japanese homeland. You have to wonder about how he really thought after he killed so many non combatants.

These realities of use. Have prevented the use sense.
Yet yes, "aren't very bright" does cover some, and sadly, those with power around the Pres have issue's too!

Read Daniel Ellsberg's New Book - The Doom's Day Machine. GREAT READ!

Holy shit dude! The things that could have been! We're all lucky as hell to still be here!

Trump is like a kid with a firecracker in his pocket. He wants to light that fucker. Simply because he has it!
 

Rob Roy

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Translation: remove child protection laws which would currently criminalize an old man's determination to groom and manipulate young girls into engaging in sexual activity with him. Brutally sick and terrifying stuff for most parents out there.

How does this help a black person who is being denied service from an employee/business owner?



You have the right to be racist and ignore black people in your private life, but not if you are in business/an employee in the service industry and your private feelings lead you to denying that service to someone based on race, religion, or national origin.

Thank goodness for The Civil Rights Act of 1964. Denying service to a black person, even though you're 'privately' racist, remains a federal crime. Still some way to go for LGBTQ rights on a federal level though.

So, you are saying that at least in some instances it is okay to force a neutral party who is remaining on their own property to serve another person they'd prefer not to?

Is that because you believe in slavery or you think rape is okay?
 

Rob Roy

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@Rob Roy

The whole A bomb thing back then was totally unknown by anybody in power, or basically even those that made them. Till they lit a fuse the first time. At that point, the builders wanted to simply give a demonstration and say " This could happen to you."

He wanted to end the war without the heavy loss of American lives. It would have been bad to invade the Japanese homeland. You have to wonder about how he really thought after he killed so many non combatants.

These realities of use. Have prevented the use sense.
Yet yes, "aren't very bright" does cover some, and sadly, those with power around the Pres have issue's too!

Read Daniel Ellsberg's New Book - The Doom's Day Machine. GREAT READ!

Holy shit dude! The things that could have been! We're all lucky as hell to still be here!

Trump is like a kid with a firecracker in his pocket. He wants to light that fucker. Simply because he has it!

When murdering innocent people, political title or using euphemisms like "collateral damage" doesn't cut it. Truman authorized murder. He's a war criminal as most "leaders" throughout history have been.
 

SunnyJim

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So, you are saying that at least in some instances it is okay to force a neutral party who is remaining on their own property to serve another person they'd prefer not to?
That is exactly what I'm saying, so says the language employed in the final draft of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specifically relating to privately or publicly owned businesses denying a service to a member of the general public based on race, religion, or national origin.

Is that because you believe in slavery or you think rape is okay?
What? I don't understand the relevance of either part of this question, but I do not think either slavery or rape are 'okay'.
 

SneekyNinja

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That is exactly what I'm saying, so says the language employed in the final draft of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specifically relating to privately or publicly owned businesses denying a service to a member of the general public based on race, religion, or national origin.



What? I don't understand the relevance of either part of this question, but I do not think either slavery or rape are 'okay'.
Rob Roy always claims being forced to serve black people in your store is rape and slavery. Slrapery you could call it.
 

Dr. Who

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When murdering innocent people, political title or using euphemisms like "collateral damage" doesn't cut it. Truman authorized murder. He's a war criminal as most "leaders" throughout history have been.
I have hard time seeing that point.
He came into office when Roosevelt died. Truman had no background knowledge of the bomb and/or of it's capabilities. Those in charge of the military and the "project" made sure of that.
I feel Truman is no more guilty of that then the guys who actually dropped the bomb's.
BUT, I do feel that the argument of not suffering high troop loss's from an invasion, wasn't actually a valid reason either.
The problem was. That almost no one had any idea of the mass destructive power of the weapon, or the following radiation problems either.
I think we dropped it, mostly by military directive. To "see" what would happen, as much as bring an early end to the war.

The results, shocked many. Sadly the "aren't very bright" military "leaders", were not among them!

Eisenhower had some idea of the actual ramifications of going nuclear. He stopped the request by Macarthur to use it after the Chinese flowed across the border into N Korea. Of course that was because he feared retaliation by the Russians too.

Read that book I suggested. You'll be surprised by the loose control over nuclear weapons till the later 60's! Shocked is more like it...
 
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SneekyNinja

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I have hard time seeing that point.
He came into office when Roosevelt died. Truman had no background knowledge of the bomb and/or of it's capabilities. Those in charge of the military and the "project" made sure of that.
I feel Truman is no more guilty of that then the guys who actually dropped the bomb's.
BUT, I do feel that the argument of not suffering high troop loss's from an invasion, was actually a valid reason either.
The problem was. That almost no one had any idea of the mass destructive power of the weapon, or the following radiation problems either.
I think we dropped it, mostly by military directive. To "see" what would happen, as much as bring an early end to the war.

The results, shocked many. Sadly not the "aren't very bright" military "leaders", were not among them!

Eisenhower had some idea of the actual ramifications of going nuclear. He stopped the request by Macarthur to use it after the Chinese flowed across the border into N Korea. Of course that was because he feared retaliation by the Russians too.

Read that book I suggested. You'll be surprised by the loose control over nuclear weapons till the later 60's! Shocked is more like it...
Nah, we knew what it could do. There were far more tests on domestic soil than you probably realize.

The reason we dropped them was to show everyone else what they could do.
 

Dr. Who

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I have hard time seeing that point.
He came into office when Roosevelt died. Truman had no background knowledge of the bomb and/or of it's capabilities. Those in charge of the military and the "project" made sure of that.
I feel Truman is no more guilty of that then the guys who actually dropped the bomb's.
BUT, I do feel that the argument of not suffering high troop loss's from an invasion, was actually a valid reason either.
The problem was. That almost no one had any idea of the mass destructive power of the weapon, or the following radiation problems either.
I think we dropped it, mostly by military directive. To "see" what would happen, as much as bring an early end to the war.

The results, shocked many. Sadly the "aren't very bright" military "leaders", were not among them!

Eisenhower had some idea of the actual ramifications of going nuclear. He stopped the request by Macarthur to use it after the Chinese flowed across the border into N Korea. Of course that was because he feared retaliation by the Russians too.

Read that book I suggested. You'll be surprised by the loose control over nuclear weapons till the later 60's! Shocked is more like it...

In fact, Ellsberg went to see the movie DR. STRANGELOVE with another military adviser. On leaving the theater, He looked at his counterpart and asked him what he thought of it? The answer was "Documentary."
Ellseberg agreed! Now that, is scary! That's how loosely controlled nukes were back then.....

During the Cuban crisis. The Russian sub in the area loaded a nuclear torpedo and was preparing to fire it, as they thought odd sounds from a US destroyer were it attacking it. (they were not)
Only the capt. Of the Russian sub intervened and stopped the launch of the torpedo (he was sleeping at the time and second in command ordered the launch. He heard the commotion and got up to see what the problem was.)
We (the US) didn't even know that the Russians had nuclear armed torpedo's!
This would have led to an all out nuclear war that would have ended up destroying the whole world. They had NO idea or knowledge of what a "Nuclear Winter" was for some years yet.

What I'm saying is, that nuclear weapons were in theater, and available for use by theater command. ON BOTH SIDES....You didn't have to ask your countries leaders for "permission"...

READ THE BOOK!
 
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Dr. Who

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Nah, we knew what it could do. There were far more tests on domestic soil than you probably realize.

The reason we dropped them was to show everyone else what they could do.
There was ONE test before use in WWII sport! That was it, period!

All that "testing" came after the war!

We still knew almost NOTHING of the true results, at that time....
Hell, wasn't it Teller and Bohr bet that it would set fire to the atmosphere, before the test?
We still didn't know shit after that first BOOM!
Paper theory and radioactive guessing....
 

SneekyNinja

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There was ONE test before use in WWII sport! That was it, period!

All that "testing" came after the war!

We still knew almost NOTHING of the true results, at that time....
Hell, wasn't it Teller and Bohr bet that it would set fire to the atmosphere, before the test?
We still didn't know shit after that first BOOM!
Paper theory and radioactive guessing....
That is true but the energy release is relatively easy to predict.

But my timeline did get all confused, you are correct.
 

Dr. Who

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That is true but the energy release is relatively easy to predict.

But my timeline did get all confused, you are correct.
The yield was higher then expected at the time. But, yeah, your right.

You should read that book too. Shit tons of knowledge the public has never known or understood till now....
 

Dr. Who

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If Trump actually gets us in a shooting war with NK.
He should ride the first Nuke he fires. Just like Slim Pickens did in Dr Strangelove.

Shit, how many artillery piece's does NK have along the DMZ? Pointed at Seoul?

Enough that if a shooting war breaks out, that it will be flattened before we even shoot back enough to make a difference....Estimates of over 2 million dead in the first 24 hrs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/10/02/why-the-north-korean-artillery-factor-makes-military-action-extremely-risky-infographic/#1af89737317e

Even then.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-artillery_us_58f631a4e4b0b9e9848eb990

Trump is an ingnorant buffoon!
 
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