Im a total noob and looking some advice...

[PrayingForMojo]

I just bought one of those NorthernHighLight seeds, planted it and it was doing ok. I am keeping it in the living room with a decent tempature, I kept it in the dark to germinate but I'm keeping light (red/blue mix grow light) on it constantly now, maybe I'm not suppost to. Its also a small light maybe not strong enough?.... I wasn't to fussed on looking after the plant like a baby so I said id just put it in a pot with good soil, give it tap water and see how it goes.

It was doing great but I noticed one leaf tips is looking a little drab and one of the smaller leafs is not doing so well. I'm wondering if it has something to do with over or under watering. I've kept the soil just about moist and only watered 3 times in 4/5 weeks.

 

[vostok]

a plant needs to drain the excess water from its roots or will drown or go serious mold

ensure you drain that water out

is that Miracle Grow soil ...?

to my blog: on the 12 week grow

https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/12-week-grow-sceneario-by-jorge-cervantas.30164/

 

[Lordhooha]

I just bought one of those NorthernHighLight seeds, planted it and it was doing ok. I am keeping it in the living room with a decent tempature, I kept it in the dark to germinate but I'm keeping light (red/blue mix grow light) on it constantly now, maybe I'm not suppost to. Its also a small light maybe not strong enough?.... I wasn't to fussed on looking after the plant like a baby so I said id just put it in a pot with good soil, give it tap water and see how it goes.

It was doing great but I noticed one leaf tips is looking a little drab and one of the smaller leafs is not doing so well. I'm wondering if it has something to do with over or under watering. I've kept the soil just about moist and only watered 3 times in 4/5 weeks.

Looks like little to no drainage

 

[PrayingForMojo]

Thanks for the reply guys..... I checked the pot and its got a plastic inner bag. I'm going to remove the plastic. Yes I have gave it some M.G. nutrients, just a very small amount. I have lifted it out of the plastic completly, i hope i didnt damage the root. Its now it a well ventilated pot....​

The soil was moist even at the bottom, there was no excess water, just moisture like in the pics?. Is that still bad?.

 

[Budley Doright]

Thanks for the reply guys..... I checked and its plastic coated. I'm going to remove the plastic. Yes I have gave it some M.G. nutrients, just a very small amount. I have lifted it out of the plastic completly, i hope i didnt damage the root. Its now it a well ventilated pot....​

The soil was moist even at the bottom, there was no excess water, just moisture like in the pics?. Is that still bad?.

Yes it is and yes you're watering to much. Also read the thread @vostok referenced, it's not the MG, but how you use it IMO.

 

[PrayingForMojo]

Yes it is and yes you're watering to much. Also read the thread @vostok referenced, it's not the MG, but how you use it IMO.

ooooooh I didn't even see that link, thank you sir.

Ok so the plant needs "flushed" so the water runs actually out the bottom?. Dam I guess I should have knew that.

What about the constant light though?. I seen a post saying these "Northern High Light" seeds once they germinate you can keep the light on the 24/7?. Would this not exhaust the plant?.

 

[Budley Doright]

I water my bag plants till I get slight run off but not a flush. I also do it in stages so I'll water all the plants then go back and water again using small amounts each time which seems to provide a better soaking. I don't flush at all but use composte and soil. With MG I probably would flush out the soil periodically to mitigate salt buildup. Hopefully a soil and salts grower will chime in. As for light, they grow fine for me without a dark period but I run 20-4, then 18-6 for power savings and find no noticeable difference in growth.

 

[PrayingForMojo]

so then over the course of the 6/8 weeks with my watering and adding M.G. the soil has become to rich due to the water not being run through?. What bout the PH nonsense, I'm using tap water 6.5/7.0, should I be using bottled water?.

Could it be cold?. I'm growing mine just like a normal plant in the living room which is just a normal temp. Do they need really warm air or soil temp?.

 

[Richard Drysift]

No do not flush..that'll make things worse...you just overwatered it and probably over fed as a result. With better drainage I bet this plant will look better soon but you've got bigger problems coming if you don't give it more light. This plant is already stretched out AF.
Disregard ph for now; room temp is fine. Tap water is fine if you are using nutrients. Give very light mg plant food if that is all you got but wait a week or so until this plant recovers from overwatering. Air to the roots is just as important as water; they need to breathe. Try misting with a hand sprayer instead of dumping water on her to keep the soil moist but never saturated. Damp as a wrung out sponge is the goal here.

 

[PrayingForMojo]

No do not flush..that'll make things worse...you just overwatered it and probably over fed as a result. With better drainage I bet this plant will look better soon but you've got bigger problems coming if you don't give it more light. This plant is already stretched out AF.
Disregard ph for now; room temp is fine. Tap water is fine if you are using nutrients. Give very light mg plant food if that is all you got but wait a week or so until this plant recovers from overwatering. Air to the roots is just as important as water; they need to breathe. Try misting with a hand sprayer instead of dumping water on her to keep the soil moist but never saturated. Damp as a wrung out sponge is the goal here.

SHIT.... I just seen this now, 5mins ago I put it in the sink and gave it a good flushing with a pint of water :O

the water ran through quickly though and is at the min dripping out the bottom?.

More light?. Ive had the grow light on it 24/7 the last 6 weeks. The stretchy look I think was caused by me keeping it in the dark to long after it germinated. I should have put the light straight on it but instead I gave it to much dark and it was a stretchy sprout.

 

[PrayingForMojo]

here is the grow light pic and details. Its pretty bright and I keep red and blue light setting on it.


Specifications
Power 10W
Input Voltage AC 100-260V
LED Quantity 18Pcs
LED Color 12 Red 650~660nm & 6 Blue 450~460nm
Body Material Aluminum
Gooseneck Length (From Head to Clip) 18.5" / 47cm
Cable Length 20" / 50.8cm
USB Cable Length 59" / 149.86cm
Light Head Diameter 3.6" / 9.14cm
Cable Length 57" 144.78cm
Clamping Range up to 3" / 7.62cm
Weight 14.11oz / 400g

 

[Richard Drysift]

Total junk...don't expect much from this light. You need wattage. Stop fucking around and get a real grow lamp if you seriously want to grow pot. A bunch of cfls would actually work better than that POS. Im not talking about stretch after germination; you could pop a seed under a reading lamp. I'm talking about the stretchy spaces in between the nodes. Look into a T5; that may be best for your situation at least for now. I recommend flowering under no less than a 400w or led equivalent although some growers around here seem to pull it off.
Never flush. Not unless you accidentally dump antifreeze in your soil or something. Now you've completely saturated the soil so just let it dry out for a few days. Make sure there's a lot of drainage holes. If it's dripping through the bottom that's probably a good thing.

 

[vostok]

here is the grow light pic and details. Its pretty bright and I keep red and blue light setting on it.


Specifications
Power 10W
Input Voltage AC 100-260V
LED Quantity 18Pcs
LED Color 12 Red 650~660nm & 6 Blue 450~460nm
Body Material Aluminum
Gooseneck Length (From Head to Clip) 18.5" / 47cm
Cable Length 20" / 50.8cm
USB Cable Length 59" / 149.86cm
Light Head Diameter 3.6" / 9.14cm
Cable Length 57" 144.78cm
Clamping Range up to 3" / 7.62cm
Weight 14.11oz / 400g

Total Junk ...true ...lol srry!

PAR/Lux and Kelvin (the light color) is the vital stuff

good luck

 

[PrayingForMojo]

Thanks guys, harsh criticism is good criticism lol....

I just popped an idea in my head i wanted to grow one and maybe let it grow out of control (just silly thoughts but just wanted to know if i could). So i really hadnt aclue going forward and just read a few things.

Ok so a better light it is. After flushing it the water basically ran straight through in 2mins and it was moist again. Im keeping it in the dark now most of the day with a few hours light hoping it recuperates.

So just a light then? And give it some time to recover?.

 

[blake9999]

You keep it in the dark too long it will start flowering on you. You going to have to give it 14+ hours of light to keep it in veg, is that is what you want. Idealy you want to give it 18/6.

 

[PrayingForMojo]

You keep it in the dark too long it will start flowering on you. You going to have to give it 14+ hours of light to keep it in veg, is that is what you want. Idealy you want to give it 18/6.

A guy there said to give it more dark than light now to let it mend a bit?.
So just keep the cycle the same then? 18 on and 6 off?.

This might sound stupid but since i flushed it thoroughly its lookin a bit more peaky. The tip of 2 leafs is still droopy but it was also loosing a bit of posture. Since flushing in the short amount of time, its lookin a bit more stiff. Maybe its something else circumstantial im not sure.

So with the pot i was using having a sealed bag was the soil getting to rich because it wasnt able to drain through?.
Can you send me the link for a decent grow light please. Keep in mind i just want something handy for having in the house and for 1 plant CHEERS

 

[RayRay747]

Yes it is and yes you're watering to much. Also read the thread @vostok referenced, it's not the MG, but how you use it IMO.

And when you do water definitely have water run out the bottom depending on how you are growing will dictate how much water runoff you actually want. And most importantly make sure to evenly water to ensure there are no dry spots. I normally start from one side of pot and water towards stem then rotate and do the same thing. I try to make sure the water is evenly distributed.

 

[RayRay747]

So with the pot i was using having a sealed bag was the soil getting to rich because it wasnt able to drain through?.

You need drainage period....If not roots will rot and things will go seriously wrong!!!

I’d start using cloth pots if possible. For the bags I use Vivosun cloth pots.

Maybe some better soil. I use Stonington Blend Growers Mix (super soil) or Dr Earth Premium Soil mixed with a 1/3 Coco coir.

I am using a viaspectra 600w led with no complaints but there are much better options out there for LED...another option a fellow grower also suggested:

“I don't know how large your tent/grow space is, but you can get a 4 pack of quantum boards that are 11.8" long and 8.8" wide each, for $133 total.

My current 600w viapsecstra - the entire light = 14.8" x 12.5" inches wide/deep.

Just one of the quantum boards = 11.8" x 8.8" inches wide/deep. 4 of them would = 4x the coverage vs the viaspectra, and you could run them inches away.”

 

[Richard Drysift]

Give it 18 to 24 hrs of light. It is droopy because it was overwatered before and then flushing made it worse. Be sure your container and soil is well draining. It's got nothing to do with richness; the roots need air to breathe and saturated soil is choking them off. Go buy a book on growing and read it. Here's a link for a T5 I suggested earlier; I use this light for plants seed to early veg but not sure how well it will flower out your plant. If you want a single light for all your growing needs get a 400w or a decent quality LED if you have the means.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009GU4RMC/ref=asc_df_B009GU4RMC5347596/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B009GU4RMC&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167140116641&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4560028423222312787&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003386&hvtargid=pla-307335020097

 

[blake9999]

You need to read a few books. Here are some that may help. look for the 'Bibles' Right click and 'save as'.
http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/