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Gotukola

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Hey guys

I'm at day 53 with my dear plant and while she is small and growing slowly indoors, I just want some reassurance or any advise/tips that she is looking healthy. I'm growing under 113w CFL and 30w LED lights. No nutes at all. She is in a compost medium mixed with charcoal, dung and mulched with coconut husk. she drinks a lot of water and is on 18/6. No nutes due to unavailability in my country (Asia) hence why I believe she is taking her own time in growing. Any advise would be gladly appreciated.
 

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Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Gotukola said:
Hey guys

I'm at day 53 with my dear plant and while she is small and growing slowly indoors, I just want some reassurance or any advise/tips that she is looking healthy. I'm growing under 113w CFL and 30w LED lights. No nutes at all. She is in a compost medium mixed with charcoal, dung and mulched with coconut husk. she drinks a lot of water and is on 18/6. No nutes due to unavailability in my country (Asia) hence why I believe she is taking her own time in growing. Any advise would be gladly appreciated.
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She’s looking a tad hungry. That mix won’t hold her over for the full grow. You have any plans on feeding?
 
blake9999

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You only going to get out what you put in. You plan on going full no nutes don't expect much of it.
 
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Gotukola

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I want to feed her but I don't know what to feed her? There are no nutes available in the region I live in. There are some other chemicals which local farmers use, no idea on those. Ordering online will take more than a month to deliver to sriiilankaaa. It's my fault for not preparing properly. I tried some liquid fertilizer but nothing doing.
 
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blake9999 said:
Look for something for tomatoes, I'm sure they have to have gardening supplies somewhere.
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thanks. I have also not topped this plant. since it's my first time I will look for something that they use for tomatoes. Would I look for a liquid fertilizer? or would it be something like powder or grains? Oh I also added some epsom salt and I did see some leaves turn darker green.
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Gotukola said:
thanks. I have also not topped this plant. since it's my first time I will look for something that they use for tomatoes. Would I look for a liquid fertilizer? or would it be something like powder or grains? Oh I also added some epsom salt and I did see some leaves turn darker green.
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xtsho

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They don't sell fertilizer in Asia? Seriously?
If not then make your own fertilizer. Surely you can find things like kelp, fish, bones, epsom salts, banana peels, egg shells, molasses, wood ash, etc...

There are lots of websites with recipes to make your own out of ingredients you might have in your kitchen. Do a google search for "homemade fertilizer" This one has a few recipe's: https://thegrownetwork.com/15-simple-and-inexpensive-homemade-fertilizers/

Here's one from that site.

Recipe #4—The Quick Fix Fertilizer
If you haven’t got time to wait 3 days to make the Simple Tea, you might want to try this idea. Most of the ingredients can be found around your home.

Instructions

• In an empty 1 gallon milk jug, mix 1 teaspoon baking powder, 1 teaspoon of ammonia (a very strong source of quick nitrogen), 3 teaspoons of instant iced tea (the tannic acid in this helps the plants to more quickly and easily absorb nutrients), 3 teaspoons blackstrap molasses (this helps feed soil bacteria), 3 Tablespoons of 3% hydrogen peroxide (hydrogen peroxide is a powerful oxidizer, as it combines with the air and water it decomposes, freeing the oxygen elements and thus providing a supplement of oxygen to the plants and aerating the soil), 1/4 cup crushed bone scraps (this adds phosphorus—any bones will do but I like to use fish bones myself as they also provide potassium), 1 crushed egg shell or 1/2 a dried banana peel for potassium (you can omit if using fish bones, but I would still add the egg shell for the calcium—especially for my tomatoes as it helps prevent blossom end rot)
• Fill the jug the rest of the way with water (again rain water is best). Replace cap and allow the jug to sit in the sun for about 1 hour to warm, then water your plants with this mixture at full strength.
 
SmokeyMcChokey

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Gotukola said:
thanks. I have also not topped this plant. since it's my first time I will look for something that they use for tomatoes. Would I look for a liquid fertilizer? or would it be something like powder or grains? Oh I also added some epsom salt and I did see some leaves turn darker green.
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Powedered or granular will be less expensive in most cases. But ultimately get what you can get. Stay clear of miracle grow brand stuff if that's even an option but again something may be better than nothing. You can also try going organic and using local materials like manure or castings. Someone not hydroponically centered would do you better to answer. @ANC I know is quite experienced in the hippie arts of fire ganja
 
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Gotukola

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Thank you for taking the time to type all this. I will make this and will give it a shot for sure. How often do you reckon I feed her this mixture. Is it based on how the plant reacts or do I give her a little bit daily depending on how she is?
I use well water and I do not have any kits to test the ph but it seems like she reacts well whenever I water her. I use the usual weight trick and it works fine.
Thanks again.

xtsho said:
They don't sell fertilizer in Asia? Seriously?
If not then make your own fertilizer. Surely you can find things like kelp, fish, bones, epsom salts, banana peels, egg shells, molasses, wood ash, etc...

There are lots of websites with recipes to make your own out of ingredients you might have in your kitchen. Do a google search for "homemade fertilizer" This one has a few recipe's:

Here's one from that site.

Recipe #4—The Quick Fix Fertilizer
If you haven’t got time to wait 3 days to make the Simple Tea, you might want to try this idea. Most of the ingredients can be found around your home.

Instructions

• In an empty 1 gallon milk jug, mix 1 teaspoon baking powder, 1 teaspoon of ammonia (a very strong source of quick nitrogen), 3 teaspoons of instant iced tea (the tannic acid in this helps the plants to more quickly and easily absorb nutrients), 3 teaspoons blackstrap molasses (this helps feed soil bacteria), 3 Tablespoons of 3% hydrogen peroxide (hydrogen peroxide is a powerful oxidizer, as it combines with the air and water it decomposes, freeing the oxygen elements and thus providing a supplement of oxygen to the plants and aerating the soil), 1/4 cup crushed bone scraps (this adds phosphorus—any bones will do but I like to use fish bones myself as they also provide potassium), 1 crushed egg shell or 1/2 a dried banana peel for potassium (you can omit if using fish bones, but I would still add the egg shell for the calcium—especially for my tomatoes as it helps prevent blossom end rot)
• Fill the jug the rest of the way with water (again rain water is best). Replace cap and allow the jug to sit in the sun for about 1 hour to warm, then water your plants with this mixture at full strength.
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Gotukola

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SmokeyMcChokey said:
Powedered or granular will be less expensive in most cases. But ultimately get what you can get. Stay clear of miracle grow brand stuff if that's even an option but again something may be better than nothing. You can also try going organic and using local materials like manure or castings. Someone not hydroponically centered would do you better to answer. @ANC I know is quite experienced in the hippie arts of fire ganja
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Thanks, I will look for this as well. I plan to veg her for another 30 days. Hope @ANC can take a look and advise when you can.
 
ANC

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She is slow but not looking bad in the thumbnails. I would top her at this stage to let her bush out a little.
 
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Gotukola

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ANC said:
She is slow but not looking bad in the thumbnails. I would top her at this stage to let her bush out a little.
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Thanks, @ANC I always wondered about doing it but I was scared I will mess with her growth since she is a slow girl. I will top her upon your advise.
 
stoned-monkey

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composted chicken manure is a great fertilizer, varies in NPK values but generally a good all purpose fertilizer.
if you keep up potting, with the fresh soil mix you got it will help, downside is you only can go so big in a pot size.
fish emulsion would be excellent too, as an island nation fish scraps should be easy to find also seaweed is full of minerals.
heck if you have the ambition and time you can probably source some great natural fertilizers.
In your research I would focus on the organic methods, these will likely be the easiest and cheapest for you to access.
if possible keep a compost pile and some worms too.
 
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Gotukola

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stoned-monkey said:
composted chicken manure is a great fertilizer, varies in NPK values but generally a good all purpose fertilizer.
if you keep up potting, with the fresh soil mix you got it will help, downside is you only can go so big in a pot size.
fish emulsion would be excellent too, as an island nation fish scraps should be easy to find also seaweed is full of minerals.
heck if you have the ambition and time you can probably source some great natural fertilizers.
In your research I would focus on the organic methods, these will likely be the easiest and cheapest for you to access.
if possible keep a compost pile and some worms too.
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Yes all of this I can find as I live on the coast as well. I guess I will make a mixture using these organic materials. Thanks.
 
ANC

ANC

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Heck, you can go out and collect kelp and dry it yourself.

You could look at the BIOBIZ line of nutes too, they are organic.
Their nitrogen base is basically a fish emulsion.

If you are doing soil, learn to steap 24 hour earthworm casting tea, and only feed that to your plants.
 
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