tangerinegreen555
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Guilty as fuck and it influenced the outcome. Obvious to most 'progressives' I know.
You strangely disagree.
The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018
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You strangely disagree.
Padawanbater2
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It's obvious to most progressives I know that the Clinton campaign influenced the outcome of the Democratic primary, yet strangely, you disagree...
tangerinegreen555
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Apples to oranges.
Didn't the Russians hack that campaign? You seem to like that part of it.
Padawanbater2
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Influencing the outcome of the democratic primary is OK but influencing the outcome of the general election isn't?
Neither are OK
You would make a much stronger case if you actually held Clinton and the democratic process to the same standard
UncleBuck
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your re-worded attempt at crying "RIGGED" has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt to a grand jury to be russian propaganda
tangerinegreen555
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Did Clinton use Russian influence to do what you claim? Or launder money over there? Or go to closed door meetings with Russians and lie about it later?
UncleBuck
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i think clinton did things like fundraising and campaigning and working her ass off
bernie got plenty of help from russians though, that has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt to a grand jury
ttystikk
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It seems that pattern is a common one here. To say that I'm the only 'offender' or even the worst is clearly wearing blinders.I agree, absolutely pathetic.
It appears that you have designed your responses just like forrest trump! Whatever he says about others is exactly what can be said about him.
Almost every post of yours includes a personal attack, and I for one am completely sick of it! I've deleted some of them, and yet you continue. Then you complain that other members are responding to you with personal attacks.
I actually have trouble believing that you can be so dense that you don't see what most every poster has pointed out to you! You always respond to them, solely to disagree, and then another attack.
So now call me a ballwasher, clown, or coward, and then whine some more about all of these personal attacks.
abandonconflict
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It's worse than that, being followed from thread to thread to continue it just derails the other threads where even the context from his insults is lost. I wouldn't mind it so much if he could at least refrain from doing that.I agree, absolutely pathetic.
It appears that you have designed your responses just like forrest trump! Whatever he says about others is exactly what can be said about him.
Almost every post of yours includes a personal attack, and I for one am completely sick of it! I've deleted some of them, and yet you continue. Then you complain that other members are responding to you with personal attacks.
I actually have trouble believing that you can be so dense that you don't see what most every poster has pointed out to you! You always respond to them, solely to disagree, and then another attack.
So now call me a ballwasher, clown, or coward, and then whine some more about all of these personal attacks.
Padawanbater2
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Clinton bought and controlled the DNC, that influenced the outcome of the Democratic primary
Why doesn't this bother you as much as the alleged Russian interference influencing the outcome of the general election?
ttystikk
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Because if the Democrats do it, it's okay, no matter what.
Justin-case
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I like how you carefully worded " alleged interference " but some how Clinton's contributions are a nail in the coffin. Have another poptart bubs
UncleBuck
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wasn;t that debunked like the day after it came out as a conspiracy theory?
tangerinegreen555
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One involved treason. Part of those activities included hacking the DNC.
But that's OK because of Bernie got beat in the primaries?
Are you really that dense?
I believe you are. You guys are the white noise distortion kings.
Unclebaldrick
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You cannot bebunk something that suits their purposes and desires no matter the facts. That is what they have in common with the alt-right. They are two sides of the same rotten coin.
Fogdog
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It lasted about 6 hours.
abandonconflict
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This is sure to go over your head, again but here goes:
If he really wanted to be president, he would not have run in a party that he was not a member of, which was bound to be biased against him and which did not even have to violate its own bylaws in order to cock block him. If he was as popular as you say, he could have done much better as an independent or green. Instead, he decided to fracture the only party that could have kept Trump from office. Other than that, and the blistering bigotry of his followers, such as yourself, he's not really so terrible. He's not really very great, but if he'd actually run for president, I might have considered voting for him, even though I dislike him. Bernie would not ever have won, because he could not ever have won and he knew it all along.
abandonconflict
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Bernard was never the best option as a presidential candidate because he was never a presidential candidate in the 2016 election.
Padawanbater2
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So the Clinton campaign influencing the outcome of the Democratic primary doesn't bother you as much as the alleged Russian influence of the general election because "one involved treason" and the other one didn't? Do I understand your reasoning correctly?
Right, that's bad.. Part of Clinton's activities included buying the DNC. How can you claim "hacking" the DNC is collusion/corruption, but buying it isn't?