Grandmaster Level - HLG Quantum Boards vs 1000w HPS side by side (youtube)

since1991 said:
This is so true and key. Tailor each room/plant morphology to the light particulars. I thought this from the beginning of gml' s side by side test run. And that is the method he's use to growing plant wise with hps lamps. I really think using the big panels..and to get maximum yield..he should really try shorter plants (less veg..smaller pots or more than one in those tankers he uses) & higher plant count. More of a sea of green type op. See what he gets then. Definitely would like to see a tree grow like he does with Gavitas and more of a sog with the led panels in another side by side vs. comparison. And equal true wattage. Maybe run the new hlg600's for the led side as well.
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yeah, thats why i said his plants are like 5ft tall and smooshed together. but he did veg them ALL under the HPS, didnt he?
 
Stephenj37826 said:
That's correct. It will get a closer with the new boards. Most other led companies are saying 1400 total ppf will do it. (I'll reserve judgment until we test this ourselves). We will be close to 1300 with the same 510 watts. So still pretty damn good in my book.
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Still using 100% sammies for that bump? :wink:
 
InTheValley said:
yeah, thats why i said his plants are like 5ft tall and smooshed together. but he did veg them ALL under the HPS, didnt he?
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I think so. He packs em in a spare utility type room when they are like a foot or so tall in one or 2 gallon pots and hits them with a mite killer to be on the safe side. At least that's what I saw. He does final pot up in those giant 15 or 20 gallon pots and vegges the shit out of them. 4 trees per hps. The deleaf and strip he does shortly after the flip is the most brutal ive ever seen. But it works. Plants look like they havent been touched once bud set and start to plump and pack the weight on.
 
OneHitDone said:
Point being it is not a single variable comparison.
Can you guarantee a nutrient lockout by adding cal-mag to the hps plants? I doubt it highly.
Let's also not forget that the cal-mag cost probably damn near eat's up the electricity difference.
Let's just make sure we have a thorough cost assessment at the end. We all know the devil is in the details.

Also, since I have your attention: in one of Remo's vids a Spectrum King rep was basically stating that in reality the Optimum lifespan on the led's is 3 years due to degredation.
In reality, how many years of continuous 12/12 service are you recommending your lights be used before replacement?
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If you watch all the episodes you will see that the led side overall used less waterings/nutrients.... It's just Epsom salt is all they need. Extra cal Mag costing as much as 500 watts?

Also we are using Samsung mid power..... High power degrades much quicker LM80 available on Samsungs website.

Also single variable is both lights having optimal conditions and feeding. That is ideal.

So you would call it frair to run both rooms at 85F and both have the same feed schedule ? Also only the same amount of water right. Yeah hps would lose. They would die from under watering.

The argument is really kinda silly.
 
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Stephenj37826 said:
If you watch all the episodes you will see that the led side overall used less waterings/nutrients.... It's just Epsom salt is all they need. Extra cal Mag costing as much as 500 watts?

Also we are using Samsung mid power..... High power degrades much quicker LM80 available on Samsungs website.
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So you won't put a # to it for how many years till recommended replacement?
 
since1991 said:
Ok. Got it now. I don't really even fuk with seeds much anymore so that puts me out. But still interesting. Been using 4" rockwool blocks for early veg whether seed of cuts anyways. But this is groovy. Lemme check out the thread. Thx.
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To be fair and understand what is going on.
Check out this one also.
Check out the 1st few pages and then jump forward to about Feb 14th.
The 1st few pages fired me up and so I decided I was going to make the Dawg my bitch even if we are in to separate contests. I'm going to be a pimple on his ass for the next couple of months, but I will be respectfully silent on Fri, Sat, and Sun.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pre-registration-for-the-greatest-party-cup-grow-off-of-2018.957441/
When I asked the others a yes or no question before and even said I was not interested in going off topic about someone's interest to play, I did not ask you because I was quite sure your answer would be yes and I'm only asking those who I'm not sure what their answer would be. I'm especially looking for those who say no.
I will start a thread to see what people think at a later date.
:peace:
 
Kushash said:
To be fair and understand what is going on.
Check out this one also.
Check out the 1st few pages and then jump forward to about Feb 14th.
The 1st few pages fired me up and so I decided I was going to make the Dawg my bitch even if we are in to separate contests. I'm going to be a pimple on his ass for the next couple of months, but I will be respectfully silent on Fri, Sat, and Sun.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pre-registration-for-the-greatest-party-cup-grow-off-of-2018.957441/
When I asked the others a yes or no question before and even said I was not interested in going off topic about someone's interest to play, I did not ask you because I was quite sure your answer would be yes and I'm only asking those who I'm not sure what their answer would be. I'm especially looking for those who say no.
I will start a thread to see what people think at a later date.
:peace:
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I am on it. Thx
 
Kushash said:
To be fair and understand what is going on.
Check out this one also.
Check out the 1st few pages and then jump forward to about Feb 14th.
The 1st few pages fired me up and so I decided I was going to make the Dawg my bitch even if we are in to separate contests. I'm going to be a pimple on his ass for the next couple of months, but I will be respectfully silent on Fri, Sat, and Sun.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pre-registration-for-the-greatest-party-cup-grow-off-of-2018.957441/
When I asked the others a yes or no question before and even said I was not interested in going off topic about someone's interest to play, I did not ask you because I was quite sure your answer would be yes and I'm only asking those who I'm not sure what their answer would be. I'm especially looking for those who say no.
I will start a thread to see what people think at a later date.
:peace:
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It can get heated. But damn man. What would make a cat so worked up over a gawl darn dope growing thread on a forum...or post? Just silly. Just frikin silly. Everyone wants to be so RIGHT and agreed with on the interwebby. Not just dope growing either. It's rather ridiculous.
 
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