gangjababy
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not true buddy, I do have 400 watts of cfl's they produce the same amount of heat.
I dunno bro, I have had a 400watt hps and that thing could melt plastic around the initial bulb. Maybe the room rises the same but that thing gets hot when anything is close. With CFL the heat around the bulb is almost non existent, I have had leaves that could sit on some CFLs and not even burn.not true buddy, I do have 400 watts of cfl's they produce the same amount of heat.
i totally agree bro. i dont know what kind of 400watt hps you guys are using but when i had a 400watt hps it cost me like 150 not to mention the cost for ventilation. that fucking thing was hot as motherfucker when you try to put it close to the plants, some of my cfls are actually touching leaves with no burning. and there is no fucking way anybody can put a fucking 400watt hps in a closet and keep temps down without having to spend a bunch of cash on ventialtion. one more thing, lets not leave out the fact that i only spent $114 TOTAL!I dunno bro, I have had a 400watt hps and that thing could melt plastic around the initial bulb. Maybe the room rises the same but that thing gets hot when anything is close. With CFL the heat around the bulb is almost non existent, I have had leaves that could sit on some CFLs and not even burn.
-Mister Nice GUY
everyone seems to forget the added time and exspense of proper ventilation for an hid, not to mention if your bulbs burns out or breaks you loose 100% of your light , and have to make a trip to a special store to replae it, in the cfl array you loose one point of light if a bulbls blows and I dont know about you but I have a walmart on nearly every corner most open 24/7 so replacing a bulb is a breeze, not to mention my electric company gives certificates for fee cfls....but this isnt the place for that debate sorry for interupting your journal.........[/QUOTE]So you are using 648 watts producing so for every 23 watts you produce 1600 lumens, so you are putting out roughly 45,078 lumens. My 400watt HPS puts out 55,000 lumens. In order to match my lumen output then you need 143 more watts of cfl's. So you would need to use twice the amount of watts or 800 watts of cfl's to match my 400 watt HPS. Yeah cfl's might be cheaper initially but you end up paying more in electricity, so they really don't pay off in the longrun. I spent roughly twice as much on my light as you did with your cfl's but I pay half as much in electricity bills. Sorry to burst your bubble buddy but CFL's are really not worth the trouble!
A 600 watt HPS put's out 95,00 lumens it is more efficient then the 400 watt...
i actually did. this strain that im working with called the church is relatively short but the buds are great. but i dont discriminate! as long as i have roots its goin into flower! i have 4 mothers- grandaddy, og kush, the church, and grapefruit kush.Ahh! Those plants look really good! Did you have any slow starters or are you the type that culls the weak? How many mothers do you have to make all those clones?
PS - I know that this is a cfl forum and all, but when someone asks if you've ever thought about HID's or if you think they could be better, don't you think it would be better for the CFL cause to not get too aggressive in your responses? I mean I just felt bad for the guy that mentioned it...
Great work though! I hope I can get somewhere close to that level!
Solid-State Lighting: Life and Lumen Maintenanceof course they last but they lose lumens over time making them less effective. I'm talking about them being effective for growing not just lighting your house.
Which is why the maintenance people there had access to everything from light meters to power draw meters for testing equipment, lights, etc.I'm not talking about the light lasting, they lose lumens over time as posted previously. It is gradual and you can't tell just by looking at them.
look man, if your even a tiny bit close to knowing what your talking about, the 26 watts cfls cost $.99 a piece. if for some dumb ass mysterious reaon that i come home and they are all shattered, its not a proble because let me remind you that they cost $.99 a piece....ITS ALL ABOUT SAVIN MONEY AND ENERGY BABY! GOD WOULD AGREE!I'm not talking about the light lasting, they lose lumens over time as posted previously. It is gradual and you can't tell just by looking at them.
Well put bro!Umm, not really. Having been a warehouse maintenance person, I can say we've used CFLs that are running 24/7 nonstop, they've lasted up to two or three years rather well before starting to flicker or dying out completely. The T5s hanging above the warehouse floor are almost the same way. It's been almost 7 years since I worked there, but I'd bet they've only had to replace the bulbs twice since I've left. And the warehouse was a computer repair depot - 24/7 operation. Proper cooling of ballasts and bulb electronics is the trick to long life, and even those tricks don't apply to HID bulbs because of their insane operating temperatures. Overall they kept their brightness nicely.