DIY-HP-LED
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I saw that speech, was a good one.
The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out
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DIY-HP-LED
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Maybe Sean and a bunch of FOX folks will go to jail too! I hope Sean tells him to fire Mueller, don't worry about obstruction big guy...
DIY-HP-LED
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Trump 'certainly believes he has the power' to fire Mueller, White House says
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump "believes he has the power to" fire special counsel Robert Mueller, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Tuesday.
"He certainly believes he has the power to do so," Sanders said when asked whether Trump believes he has that power.
She did not suggest Trump would be moving to fire Mueller...
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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump "believes he has the power to" fire special counsel Robert Mueller, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Tuesday.
"He certainly believes he has the power to do so," Sanders said when asked whether Trump believes he has that power.
She did not suggest Trump would be moving to fire Mueller...
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DIY-HP-LED
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Ya know, Mueller and Rosenstein must have anticipated Trump's reaction and should have planned for it. This was a sucker shot right in Donald's face, maybe this is how they plan on presenting the impeachment "report" to congress. Their job is to prosecute Trump in the arena of impeachment, part of that might be to motivate congress to action by motivating Donald into a major legal and political blunder. They must know that Mitch and Paul would like to get rid of Donald ASAP and are looking for cover. Remember if your these guys, your loyalty is to the constitution and Trump is a clear and present danger aside from being a guilty asshole and getting an impeachment conviction is your mission. Impeachment is a political remedy, not a legal one, the rules of the game are different too, what is the role of the prosecutor then? Maybe they are presenting their report and this is the icing on the cake for obstruction of justice.
greg nr
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No, no, no, and FUCK NO!
Neither of those toads want trump gone. They are actively protecting him. If they wanted him gone, they would be working to lower the brat's approval rating by actually, you know, criticizing the asshat.
Stop saying they want him gone.
EVERYTHING they have done says they want him to stay. They are throwing everything they have behind him. They are even using the national campaign tactic of warning the base that losing the house would lead to impeachment.
Impeachment doesn't stand a chance as long as the brat has the support of the gop base. If the leadership really wanted him gone, they would be undermining his support, not building it up. They know how to undermine someone without taking heat. Ryan knows he won't even serve another term (he wants out).
This simply isn't true.
Fogdog
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I've read similar speculation. Having the DOJ raid Cohen instead of Mueller's office taking oversight puts the evidence in the hands of that office. Meuller's firing would not stop that part of the investigation.
Some "operative in the White House" expects Meuller to be fired by the end of this week. He's also predicting Rosenstein and the others who approved of this raid to go too. Admittedly other say not. This was a telling blow, that's for sure.
This statement by federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah is telling: In order to gain access to Trump's lawyer's records, ‘You need to show that the attorney client relationship was used in furtherance of a crime. By approving the raid, US attorney for the Southern District of New York Geoffrey Berman, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and FBI Director Christopher Wray all basically said they agree that Cohen was using his client relationship as cover to commit a crime.
DIY-HP-LED
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All I can say is I hope I'm right in my guess, cause there's gonna be bigly trouble if he fires Mueller and burns down the DOJ. He's worried and knows he's not bulletproof, I figure Grassley gave the best account of what awaits Trump if he fires Mueller or Rosenstein or tries to move Pruitt into the AG slot. He will, so we won't have long to wait at all, Donald is pawing at the ground like a wild animal eager for relief from torment. I figure a week or two at the most and we will see what way the wind will blow, he needs a distraction and he's hoping for Syria or Iran.
Not long now, Muller wouldn't have done this to Cohen if he wasn't ending a phase of the investigation.
I hope I'm right and they impeach and convict on the same day, cause this guy is getting bigly dangerous and mentally unstable, a clear and present danger.
Fogdog
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On the other hand, sorting through Cohen's files will take this whole matter well into the election season. After the election, a Democratically controlled House CAN impeach. With the eyes of the nation on the Senate after impeachment and a clear message from the electorate that Trump is dragging them down base or not, also depending on how awful Meuller's report makes Trump out to be, we might see the second President removed from office.
Okay -- Trump's removal from office is still a long shot and would still leave GOP gangsters in control of the WH but the odds got better this week for seeing Trump gone.
Sour Wreck
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there is nobody, besides trump, i wish more pain and suffering on than sean hannity.
Fogdog
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Rush would be my go-to if crucifixions were re-instituted.
Sour Wreck
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my wish for rush is force feed opioids until he bangs his brain bloody and beaten in a cell against the bars until he is a vegetable
Fogdog
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My only problem with your scenario is vegetables don't suffer in pain.
Sour Wreck
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that is a good point. maybe he just does enough brain damage he is in constant pain, can't walk, feed himself or wipe his ass....
DIY-HP-LED
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How likely does it look now that a thousand assholes will end up in jail or squealing to stay out before the dust settles on this one. Bearing in mind over 70 went to jail over watergate. The Dutch lawyer was the first of many and I'm pretty sure Mikey Cohen will be one too.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's just a guess and based on human nature. Would you like to work with Donald? Carry his water in the midterms? The GOP leadership is beyond worrying about winning the midterm elections and are concerned about wrestling the base back from Trump, that would be easier if he were out of office and in jail with a minimum amount of blame for the republicans. They have to look like they are going all out for Donald and it has to be convincing to the base and Donald and us too BTW. If Donald causes a constitutional crises by firing Mueller and blowing up the DOJ it will give cover for a prearranged execution with just the right house members and senators voting to impeach and convict.
If Donald is in office till November with all this shit flying around and trials going on, the GOP will lose the senate too and that's what Mitch fears most, losing power. He's the brains behind the GOP and he's good at strategy, tactics and cutting throats.
Sour Wreck
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the shit is getting more deep all the time
DIY-HP-LED
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I see Stormy is cooperating with the feds, looks like Donald might be hung by his cock.
DIY-HP-LED
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Looks like Trump is gonna fire Rosenstein, he's pissed at him fur sure.
Trump considering firing Rosenstein to check Mueller
President Donald Trump is considering firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, multiple people familiar with the discussions tell CNN, a move that has gained urgency following the raid of the office of the President's personal lawyer.
Such an action could potentially further Trump's goal of trying to put greater limits on special counsel Robert Mueller.
This is one of several options -- including going so far as to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions -- Trump is weighing in the aftermath of the FBI's decision Monday to raid the office of Michael Cohen, the President's personal lawyer and longtime confidant. Officials say if Trump acts, Rosenstein is his most likely target, but it's unclear whether even such a dramatic firing like this would be enough to satisfy the President.
Trump has long been angry at top Justice Department officials, who he feels have not done enough to protect him from Mueller's ongoing probe. But two sources said the raid could mark a tipping point that would prompt the President to take more aggressive action against the special counsel.
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Bet he'll be in front of the senate judiciary committee testifying with an interim report the next day. I figured he'd wait for a distraction, but he lacks the discipline, first up Rosenstein. What will Mueller do? What will Jeff Sessions do? Who will he get to fire Rosenstein? Remember he already fired Mueller last June?, but the WH counsel wouldn't do it.
He could also wipe out the special council regulation and fire Mueller directly, but there might be mass resignations from the DOJ, it would be the nuclear option.
They must have been expecting this and must have anticipated it.
This treasonous cocksucker is gonna go down hard and probably fast too.
Trump considering firing Rosenstein to check Mueller
President Donald Trump is considering firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, multiple people familiar with the discussions tell CNN, a move that has gained urgency following the raid of the office of the President's personal lawyer.
Such an action could potentially further Trump's goal of trying to put greater limits on special counsel Robert Mueller.
This is one of several options -- including going so far as to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions -- Trump is weighing in the aftermath of the FBI's decision Monday to raid the office of Michael Cohen, the President's personal lawyer and longtime confidant. Officials say if Trump acts, Rosenstein is his most likely target, but it's unclear whether even such a dramatic firing like this would be enough to satisfy the President.
Trump has long been angry at top Justice Department officials, who he feels have not done enough to protect him from Mueller's ongoing probe. But two sources said the raid could mark a tipping point that would prompt the President to take more aggressive action against the special counsel.
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Bet he'll be in front of the senate judiciary committee testifying with an interim report the next day. I figured he'd wait for a distraction, but he lacks the discipline, first up Rosenstein. What will Mueller do? What will Jeff Sessions do? Who will he get to fire Rosenstein? Remember he already fired Mueller last June?, but the WH counsel wouldn't do it.
He could also wipe out the special council regulation and fire Mueller directly, but there might be mass resignations from the DOJ, it would be the nuclear option.
They must have been expecting this and must have anticipated it.
This treasonous cocksucker is gonna go down hard and probably fast too.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Cohen said the FBI was polite during the raid, how do you politely kick down someone's door early in the morning? I'm Canadian and would like to know for practical reasons...