Are evangelical Christians who support Trump a cult?

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
Yes, one person said he was converted. That's not very convincing.

I don't believe that a real racist or sexist or bigot can be converted by anything anybody says. My proof is that 44% of people today lean toward racist beliefs, practically all are white. We've talked and talked and talked yet still people who were racist 20 years ago are still racist.

I call your 1 person and raise you 44%.
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People change through understanding. Understanding is gained through experience. Many experiences are had from external sources. To argue people can only be changed from within is exactly what I'm saying. Those learned experiences that actually change you from within are learned from other people having lived through them. What people say about you fucking up in any aspect of life is what helps to lead to improvement. The shame, the embarrassment, the struggle, perseverance.

Hardship is what leads to greatness. People become extraordinary through struggle.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Still no one but you believes it. And really whatever crutch is making you act this way progressively worse night after night.

Try some good weed instead. You already ruined any semblance of a forum here.
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no one has to believe me, they can just look at you defending the statement that jews are "lying rats"
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
People change through understanding. Understanding is gained through experience. Many experiences are had from external sources. To argue people can only be changed from within is exactly what I'm saying. Those learned experiences that actually change you from within are learned from other people having lived through them. What people say about you fucking up in any aspect of life is what helps to lead to improvement. The shame, the embarrassment, the struggle, perseverance.

Hardship is what leads to greatness. People become extraordinary through struggle.
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demonstrate it by fixing a racist here on rollitup dot org
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
People change through understanding. Understanding is gained through experience. Many experiences are had from external sources. To argue people can only be changed from within is exactly what I'm saying. Those learned experiences that actually change you from within are learned from other people having lived through them. What people say about you fucking up in any aspect of life is what helps to lead to improvement. The shame, the embarrassment, the struggle, perseverance.

Hardship is what leads to greatness. People become extraordinary through struggle.
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OK, so show me some studies that back up your claims. I don't know of any. The nub of our differences is you have a religious belief in your opinions and I take a more scientific approach. I've given you a very good study that backs up at least in part my assertions. You just keep repeating your belief. If what you say is true then it must have been documented in a careful science-based study. Show me that or at least admit that what you say is unproven but you believe it anyway.

Your earnest assertions that have no basis in fact or verified in any way are why I claim you have crossed over into a religious cult.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
OK, so show me some studies that back up your claims.
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1. People change through understanding
2. Understanding is gained through experience
3. Many experiences are had from external sources
4. Those learned experiences that actually change you from within are learned from other people having lived through them
5. What people say about you fucking up in any aspect of life is what helps to lead to improvement
6. Hardship is what leads to greatness
7. People become extraordinary through struggle
Fogdog said:
The nub of our differences is..
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..that you ignore economic justice and criticize the politicians with the highest probability of defeating Trump in 2020 not based on policy issues
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
1. People change through understanding
2. Understanding is gained through experience
3. Many experiences are had from external sources
4. Those learned experiences that actually change you from within are learned from other people having lived through them
5. What people say about you fucking up in any aspect of life is what helps to lead to improvement
6. Hardship is what leads to greatness
7. People become extraordinary through struggle

..that you ignore economic justice and criticize the politicians with the highest probability of defeating Trump in 2020 not based on policy issues
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I asked you to show me some studies and you showed me opinions. 42% of people in this country, mostly white, are still racist after fifty years of talk, talk, talk. You pulled up one person. I cite 42% of all the people in the US.think that racism is not widespread in the US. A frighteningly large number of people, mostly white don't acknowledge racism in is widespread in the US.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/109258/majority-americans-say-racism-against-blacks-widespread.aspx

The difference between you and I is I value facts over belief. Show us one study of how a meaningful number of opinions were changed by any of your seven nice ideas.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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UncleBuck said:
no one has to believe me, they can just look at you defending the statement that jews are "lying rats"
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You need to learn about levity. I try to break up a conversation that has gone to insults months and months ago.

And you are still tight and cringing at your monitor trying to get me for being a liar and a racist.

You never had any basis for what you say about me but delusion. And you are almost a year worse now.

Seriously Buck. As a fellow American. Choose Weed! Propagate good Quality Marijuana. Obviously you haven’t had any.

And find a real hobby or work. Before the acid reflux kills you.
 
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bundee1

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MichiganMedGrower said:
You need to learn about levity. I try to break up a conversation that has gone to insults months and months ago.

And you are still tight and cringing at your monitor trying to get me for being a liar and a racist.

You never had any basis for what you say about me but delusion. And you are almost a year worse now.

Seriously Buck. As a fellow American. Choose Weed! Propagate good Quality Marijuana. Obviously you haven’t had any.

And find a real hobby or work. Before the acid reflux kills you.
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So apologize for making a stupid joke in poor taste and denounce the racist assholes on this site, simple enough no?
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Lol. Apologize to the ass hole that started this with me?

And denounce people I haven’t seen any actual evidence of these claims from. Just comments made during badgering and name calling. And accusations from people with no credibility.

Yeah fuck that.
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Then youll get what you deserve, Michiganmethsmoker.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Fogdog said:
Sure you did.

So, maybe you didn't specify the method but this is most definitely an invitation to suicide for those that don't want to join the Cult of Trump.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing you for being in the Cult of Trump.
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It could read that way. I read it as just cut the cord and move on. The find out what's nextcould mean death or just what's next.
 
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