Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Bestcoast666 said:
And how long are the autos? That's not bad yields at all don't get me wrong, it's deff possible to get bigger yields on the bright side :)
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I get 3oz per Auto very consistently, and sometimes I get 4oz but I have no idea what I should be shooting for....What would you say the average yield for an Ak48 Auto or Blue Dream Auto should be??
 
I use Jobe's Organic as a base and add to it. I always use (and have for 20 years) used 1/3 perlite. Good drainage and rapid root growth makes good. Foxfarm sucks and don't use it! It is a scam to sell you expensive bottles of additives on a schedule that cost a small fortune and isn't even organic! I don't have to feed mine anything start to finish. Foxfarm has you feeding right up to harvest which is ridiculous as should never feed a month to 3 weeks prior to harvest and always flush. Friend of mine swears by foxfarm and his stuff tastes like crap and is all brown and his seeds are wacked because Foxfarm screws with the genetics and makes seed shells impossible to pop because so thick. I did a side by side test with Ocean Forest with two White Widow clones and the Ocean Forest had so many deficiencies that had to chop it early..hard to see from pics...one on the left is straight Foxfarm Ocean Forest (with added perlite)! Can see it is smaller but leaf pics can't find but mostly mag and phosphorus deficiencies plus assorted micro.

And of course Foxfarm Ocean Forest sucks straight because I didn't buy the expensive additive bottles so why would the soil be worth a crap straight!
 

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bezalom said:
I use Jobe's Organic as a base and add to it. I always use (and have for 20 years) used 1/3 perlite. Good drainage and rapid root growth makes good. Foxfarm sucks and don't use it! It is a scam to sell you expensive bottles of additives on a schedule that cost a small fortune and isn't even organic! I don't have to feed mine anything start to finish. Foxfarm has you feeding right up to harvest which is ridiculous as should never feed a month to 3 weeks prior to harvest and always flush. Friend of mine swears by foxfarm and his stuff tastes like crap and is all brown and his seeds are wacked because Foxfarm screws with the genetics and makes seed shells impossible to pop because so thick. I did a side by side test with Ocean Forest with two White Widow clones and the Ocean Forest had so many deficiencies that had to chop it early..hard to see from pics...one on the left is straight Foxfarm Ocean Forest (with added perlite)! Can see it is smaller but leaf pics can't find but mostly mag and phosphorus deficiencies plus assorted micro.

And of course Foxfarm Ocean Forest sucks straight because I didn't buy the expensive additive bottles so why would the soil be worth a crap straight!
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Fox farms screws with genetics... please just stop my sides is kill
 
bezalom said:
I use Jobe's Organic as a base and add to it.........deficiencies plus assorted micro.

And of course Foxfarm Ocean Forest sucks straight because I didn't buy the expensive additive bottles so why would the soil be worth a crap straight!
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Never had anything but great results with FFOF soil...my plants love it . I’d guess your troubles are those lights your showing or maybe the jobes.
 
Miyagismokes said:
I've been playing with totes myself, got some...I dunno, 12-14 gal I guess, green waste bins I'm using outdoor for some late plantings. Itching to use them indoor...
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I don’t grow in them, I just use them to rotate my soil for every other grow season. Two 17gal totes works nicely for the number of plants and grow space I have
 
Go go n chill said:
I don’t grow in them, I just use them to rotate my soil for every other grow season. Two 17gal totes works nicely for the number of plants and grow space I have
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I've used totes and garbage cans. Totes work great. 18gal is what I'm about to use once my plants are ready to flower. Get some cheap around the holidays at wally world or lowes. $4 each or so if you keep an eye out. if you can get for less than that grab them up! bigger yield than using 5gal buckets.
 
The Mantis said:
I've used totes and garbage cans. Totes work great. 18gal is what I'm about to use once my plants are ready to flower. Get some cheap around the holidays at wally world or lowes. $4 each or so if you keep an eye out. if you can get for less than that grab them up! bigger yield than using 5gal buckets.
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Oh so you grow in the totes? I have thought about shelving in large tote in my grow closet and planting some beans to see what would happen. I’m curious how the routes we do and how the canopy would react to not ever having boundaries
 
Go go n chill said:
Oh so you grow in the totes? I have thought about shelving in large tote in my grow closet and planting some beans to see what would happen. I’m curious how the routes we do and how the canopy would react to not ever having boundaries
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Yep, I've used totes indoor and outdoor. Indoors I would plant two in a tote unsexed to flower and then cut down the males and add in clones or leave the plant solo.
 
fox farm isn't that bad, the way some of you guys make it sound, like it's made with batery acid! I've used it Over the years, and I've always amended it, and added to my living soil! can't say I have any major complaints, but I do prefer roots organic over ffof, and happy frog!
 
Go go n chill said:
What type of setup? How big do the plants get?
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I've done hps indoor with containers and got 2 plants in a container that went 7' tall with massive rock hard buds. Smaller plants do grow as big but you can get huge yields from 18gal containers. Remember to poke in some holes for drainage.

Outdoor they can get really big so you'll need to stake them out.
 
Greenthumbs256 said:
fox farm isn't that bad, the way some of you guys make it sound, like it's made with batery acid! I've used it Over the years, and I've always amended it, and added to my living soil! can't say I have any major complaints, but I do prefer roots organic over ffof, and happy frog!
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I think the first grow with ffof is a little hot maybe and you get some burn. If you leave the same soil in your container (no till) and then replant in the same holes, it seems like they grow much better on the 2nd-4th rounds with some light top dressing and/or teas. IMO, you should probably amend the whole container of soil and start over after 3-4 grows.
 
The Mantis said:
I think the first grow with ffof is a little hot maybe and you get some burn. If you leave the same soil in your container (no till) and then replant in the same holes, it seems like they grow much better on the 2nd-4th rounds with some light top dressing and/or teas. IMO, you should probably amend the whole container of soil and start over after 3-4 grows.
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lol thank you but I've been re using my soil for almost 5 years now, but I appreciate it anyway!
 
Greenthumbs256 said:
lol thank you but I've been re using my soil for almost 5 years now, but I appreciate it anyway!
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Wow five years that’s a good run. I’ve only been growing for over a year now but I see no reason why you can’t keep soil going he just have to amend it. And I’ve never had a problem with Foxfarm ocean forest burning my plants. My amended super soil always goes into the bottom of each pot and what is on top is always straight Foxfarm ocean floors . But that’s What works for me it might network for someone else with a different set up. I’m only running 1400 Milla amps of cobs ....
 
Go go n chill said:
Oh man I’m gonna have questions for you later ! I don’t have time to read your whole journal but I’ll get to it later I got questions about how use your dolomite lime
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just head over there, most questions have been answered, it's only a few pages and a working progress, but I'd be happy to help out in any way I can!
 
Sincerely420 said:
Soil mixed up for the next run(as of 1/17/2013)
I used:

-1.5cubic feet Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-38cups Wiggle Worms Earthworm Casting (1-0-0)
-10cups Perlite(may add more eventually)
-11tsp Rooters Mycorrhizae
*Soil Base
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-1.5cups Indonesian Hi-P Bat Guano (.5-13-.2)
-1.5cups Algamin Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
-1.5cups Espoma Tomato Tone (3-4-6)
*Nutritional Amendments
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-1.5cups Azomite(used as a rock dust)
-0.5cup Espoma Green sand
-1.25cups Hi-Cal Lime
*Mineral Amendments
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To finish it all up, I watered it with a gallon of water! Now to let it sit for a good 3 weeks to a month!

This mix is a little heavier amended(more in total nutritional amendment) than my current mix, and I used Azomite instead of rock dust, so that I wouldn't have to order it!
I also added mycos to this mix. I didn't treat the soil that my current girls are growing in with mycos, so the Azomite and the mycos are the variables this time around, as well as more food..About a 1.5cup more in total!

*edit..Also tested my soil PH at 6.5 fresh outta bag, not yet amended.
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Just FYI theres no point in adding any mycos to your soil mix when cooking. All those mycos get fried right out of the mix. It's not hurting you, but you're wasting money. Better idea would be to add 1 Tbs +/- during transplant right under your root ball. You can add it to your mix globally, but again, only after it is done "cooking" when you're ready to plant in it.
 
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