Why subcool left RIU?

charface

charface

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Observe & Report said:
setting up a forum is easy, getting people to use it is much harder

You're probably right, he only wants to promote his new seed company and doesn't actually want to participate in any type of discussion. I mean, what could he possibly learn here, from us?
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I've been sort of keeping up on his projects.
And I doubt he has time or energy to spare.

Never know though
 
Observe & Report

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the rock said:
who is subcool without reading from start?
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He's an old school breeder / seed maker, selling seeds as TGA: Subcool Seeds (The Green Avenger) since '01 and also has a "show' on YouTube called The Weed Nerd. He's known for breeding with a cross of Romulan and C99, Space Queen, which all of his strains are derived from. I've grown Chernobyl, Time Wreck, The Flav, and Querkle and they were all pretty dank.

Last fall his house burned down in a huge fire that took out hundreds of homes. His wife, Mz Jill, also decided it was her cue to get divorced. Since she was involved in the TGA business, he now operates as just Subcool at subcool.com I'm not sure what happened exactly, but it sounds like she handled a lot of the business aspects of TGA while he stuck mostly to breeding and is now fucking him over.

A lot of people don't like him because he's a bit of a jackass. Acts like he's some Cannabis Wizard when he's definitely not. He really loves Cannabis even though he basically can't smoke or vape it anymore (congenital COPD), so he is not just a Green Rusher.
 
ttystikk

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Observe & Report said:
He's an old school breeder / seed maker, selling seeds as TGA: Subcool Seeds (The Green Avenger) since '01 and also has a "show' on YouTube called The Weed Nerd. He's known for breeding with a cross of Romulan and C99, Space Queen, which all of his strains are derived from. I've grown Chernobyl, Time Wreck, The Flav, and Querkle and they were all pretty dank.

Last fall his house burned down in a huge fire that took out hundreds of homes. His wife, Mz Jill, also decided it was her cue to get divorced. Since she was involved in the TGA business, he now operates as just Subcool at subcool.com I'm not sure what happened exactly, but it sounds like she handled a lot of the business aspects of TGA while he stuck mostly to breeding and is now fucking him over.

A lot of people don't like him because he's a bit of a jackass. Acts like he's some Cannabis Wizard when he's definitely not. He really loves Cannabis even though he basically can't smoke or vape it anymore (congenital COPD), so he is not just a Green Rusher.
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Sorry to hear this. I'm glad he's still working.
 
bottletoke

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ttystikk said:
Sorry to hear this. I'm glad he's still working.
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Hes actually doing better now then before he lost everything, hes allover corporate cannabis. got his site up and running and its really good actually...he started his own forum ....dont know the address but hes posting about it on instagram. worth a sign up i guess..... pretty cool work hes doing right now, glad he bounced back like he did.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bottletoke said:
Hes actually doing better now then before he lost everything, hes allover corporate cannabis. got his site up and running and its really good actually...he started his own forum ....dont know the address but hes posting about it on instagram. worth a sign up i guess..... pretty cool work hes doing right now, glad he bounced back like he did.
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See if you can find the link and PM me with it?
 
too larry

too larry

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Observe & Report said:
Compared to lots of today's seed makers, Subcool is a regular Gregor Mendel. TGA's menu has slowly evolved over the years, only adding a few strains a year. Look at how many of today's extremely popular seed makers regularly drop a dozen or more crosses, all elites chucked with the same male, with zero pictures or descriptions because they likely haven't even been tested, for $100-$200!! By the time you figure out if a pack is worth your time and money it's long gone and will never be made again. Or worse, the breeder discovers the packs are hermies and instead of destroying them just sits on them for a year or so until people forget then suddenly drops them at a good price (JAWS trashed his reputation with that move, caveat emptor!)

That's why I think he could come back and not have to suffer too much flaming. There are so many objectively worse chuckers out there now.
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But the males make the breeder. I heard Sub lost most of his boss males in the wild fires. He will truly have to rise from the ashes if he wants to have strains like he is famous for.
 
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too larry said:
But the males make the breeder. I heard Sub lost most of his boss males in the wild fires. He will truly have to rise from the ashes if he wants to have strains like he is famous for.
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Did you hear that from Subcool? I know I've seen Weed Nerds where he said has Space Dude backed up in multiple locations, since TGA operates in CO, AZ, and OR at least.

In other Weed Nerds you can see him picking new Querkle males to use, he's even doing it again recently on his blog. He just flowers out some males and picks the one that seems the best. That's why he promulgates the myth that seeds made by crossing females are inferior because "the male brings vigor and structure." It's what you get if you select your males without comparing their progeny. I'm not sure how many males other than Space Dude he just grabs at random from a pack when he needs them but I suspect it is all of them.

So I don't think he lost any "boss males" because he's a stem rubbin' chucker not a breeder. He used to say on Weed Nerd he said he wasn't a breeder just a seed maker, but he may have changed his tune.

Doesn't mean there isn't dank weed to be found in his packs, but they could be even better.
 
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Early this year I selected a really gooey purple male Querkle plant and pollinated the Urkle mother and we sent out 420 seeds for testing. This data is still being collected but while I had the Querkle male live with pollen I decided to also pollinate the Apollo-13 mother plant to give me an idea what traits this new male might pass on using a mother plant we know so well.
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too larry

too larry

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Observe & Report said:
Did you hear that from Subcool? I know I've seen Weed Nerds where he said has Space Dude backed up in multiple locations, since TGA operates in CO, AZ, and OR at least.

In other Weed Nerds you can see him picking new Querkle males to use, he's even doing it again recently on his blog. He just flowers out some males and picks the one that seems the best. That's why he promulgates the myth that seeds made by crossing females are inferior because "the male brings vigor and structure." It's what you get if you select your males without comparing their progeny. I'm not sure how many males other than Space Dude he just grabs at random from a pack when he needs them but I suspect it is all of them.

So I don't think he lost any "boss males" because he's a stem rubbin' chucker not a breeder. He used to say on Weed Nerd he said he wasn't a breeder just a seed maker, but he may have changed his tune.

Doesn't mean there isn't dank weed to be found in his packs, but they could be even better.
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I heard it right when the fires were burning. From folks in that part of the world. I hope some of them were saved. For our sake as well as his own.

Each of the old strains were from one particular mom and dad. Clones from those were in several locations, but the fires were all over. I don't follow him on any platforms, so not sure what he is up to these days. As long as he is letting folks know what he is doing in crosses, pheno searching males is alright.
 
too larry

too larry

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That is cool. But if he were to use an Apollo 13 male and female, and didn't sell the seeds as Apollo 13 f2's, that would be deceptive.

But if he had a cut of Space Dude somewhere safe, he will be fine.
 
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too larry said:
I heard it right when the fires were burning. From folks in that part of the world. I hope some of them were saved. For our sake as well as his own.
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So just a rumor then? I think spreading rumours about breeders losing males is really malicious. It appears to me to have really hurt DJ Short.
 
too larry

too larry

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So just a rumor then? I think spreading rumours about breeders losing males is really malicious. It appears to me to have really hurt DJ Short.
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Not my intent. I know guys who run in the same circles as he does. They were talking about it at the time. These days when they talk about Sub, it's about the "off the field" stuff more than his breeding.
 
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