green or yellow fan leaves at harvest

[Miyagismokes]

Im sure he an others are stilm using them, but its a lot less than it used to be around these forums. And im talking just about bud hardeners such as gravity, topmax, etc that were all the rage 5-8 years ago.

Ah, those days.
Those would noticeably add a color to BHO, so I've always turned my nose up at "bud hardeners" that weren't kelp

 

[Chunky Stool]

Plants evolved in nature.
In the beginning of the season the ground is rich with nitrogen.

As the season progresses it gets used and when rains arrive fast acting nitrogen is the first to go.

Dr Ethan Russo thinks that by limiting
Nutrients you can actually get a boost in the terps, which is a huge factor in choosing a variety.

But clearly he is a retard.
According to him Terps decrease with soil fertility.

Listen to the Retarded Dr on the chasing fire podcast
Episode, cannabinoids and terpinoids.

You will notice right away he is just some dipshit stoner.

Always consider the source when taking in information.

Some of it is considerably valuable.
Some is retarded

Healthy plants are also more resistant to pests and mold/mildew.
This is very important to me because it's usually getting cool and damp around finish time.
Adding silica helps too.

 

[charface]

Healthy plants are also more resistant to pests and mold/mildew.
This is very important to me because

I agree with that. I have heard that yellow is a signal to certain pests that a plant is in a weakened state and is good for food.

 

[Chunky Stool]

I agree with that. I have heard that yellow is a signal to certain pests that a plant is in a weakened state and is good for food.

Yep.
Letting plants wilt from lack of water is also a no no. Attracts bugs, big time.
It can even make them herm during flower.
Mucho bad-o.

 

[Miyagismokes]

I agree with that. I have heard that yellow is a signal to certain pests that a plant is in a weakened state and is good for food.

Makes sense for whiteflies and fugus gnats, that's for sure

 

[charface]

I was just having a bad reaction in this thread when I posted all the retard shit. Lol

I had like too many bad days in a row so I lashed out at nothing over nothing.

But, i feel better today. Haha

 

[Chunky Stool]

I was just having a bad reaction in this thread when I posted all the retard shit. Lol

I had like too many bad days in a row so I lashed out at nothing over nothing.

But, i feel better today. Haha

So the video you mentioned is actually worth watching?
I'm confused.

 

[charface]

So the video you mentioned is actually worth watching?
I'm confused.

Absolutely worth it.

 

[too larry]

I was just having a bad reaction in this thread when I posted all the retard shit. Lol

I had like too many bad days in a row so I lashed out at nothing over nothing.

But, i feel better today. Haha

I took that for very subtle use of sarcasm.

 

[too larry]

I took that for very subtle use of sarcasm.

Not that I have any personal experience with that subject.

 

[charface]

Not that I have any personal experience with that subject.

Haha, yeah, suuuper subtle.

 

[too larry]

My 2 cents on feeding flowers late in the game. I use veg food first 3 weeks. Half veg/half flower food 2nd 3 weeks. Flower food last 3 weeks, tapering off the last two weeks.

Edit: I'm outdoors in the ground.

 

[charface]

My 2 cents on feeding flowers late in the game. I use veg food first 3 weeks. Half veg/half flower food 2nd 3 weeks. Flower food last 3 weeks, tapering off the last two weeks.

Almost exactly what I do.
I don't like early yellowing
But I don't mind them fading towards the bitter end.

In fact some of my best resin production has been on faded plants.

I know that is not science but it happened.

My gut feeling is that restricting food
Towards the end may shock the plants into survival mode so they shift into high gear with the resin.

Again that is just something I think MIGHT happen.

 

[too larry]

Almost exactly what I do.
I don't like early yellowing
But I don't mind them fading towards the bitter end. . . . . . .

Tdub kind of steered me in that direction. If he were still here, he could explain just why it's the right way to go. All I know is it works.

 

[charface]

Its a fine line for me.
I taper but not starve.
I honestly don't know what's right
Both sides have convincing arguments.
I do know that i eased up on my feeding of this skunk and got the nicest run of it I ever had.

I just found the sweet spot for that strain. However the Diesel i grew right next it was pretty average.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Almost exactly what I do.
I don't like early yellowing
But I don't mind them fading towards the bitter end.

In fact some of my best resin production has been on faded plants.

I know that is not science but it happened.

My gut feeling is that restricting food
Towards the end may shock the plants into survival mode so they shift into high gear with the resin.

Again that is just something I think MIGHT happen.

You could be right.
I've finished both ways but never actually done a side-by-side bud comparison.
The ideal nute schedule seems to vary by strain.
I've had strains that would puff up if you gave them nitrogen during flower but other strains did just fine.
I ran a Cindy99 clone in my last crop that ended up with puffy buds but the double purple doja finished great. The were in identical grow bags, same soil, same nutes.
Both had been grown out successfully by experienced growers (good genetics).

I'm not sure starving plants of nitrogen actually reduces it in the final product because N is mobile and buds are the #1 priority for the plant.

 

[Chunky Stool]

There is definitely merit to the theory that stressing plants late in flower can produce more cannabinoids, but it's a trade off -- especially outdoors.
Someone even started a thread about topping buds (pinching the tips).

 

[the rock]

I let my plants get to the wilting stage occasionally(outdoors only,indoors no) and have never had a problem with any sort of bug when wilted( or not.) I just like to get the soil totally dryed out once in a while.

 

[Chunky Stool]

I let my plants get to the wilting stage occasionally(outdoors only,indoors no) and have never had a problem with any sort of bug when wilted( or not.) I just like to get the soil totally dryed out once in a while.

It's not a big deal if you catch it early and the plant is reasonably healthy. If you grow in plastic pots, letting them dry out "air prunes" the roots which helps prevent swirling.
Veg only. Definitely not recommended for flowering plants.

 

[Igrowmeds22]

You shouldnt be completly starving your plant, but there should be some yellowing and leaf drop. But there should also still be some green leaf at harvest. Hope this helps

This is solid advice and good reasoning. I have always found that a slight decrease in N at the end of flower gives me the best result for flavor and quality. I try for about 30% yellowing by harvest time with the upper part of the plant being green. I start lowering N in the last 5 days prior to cutting. Not sure if this affects yield but I’m most concerned with quality.