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Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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Hi Guys!!! I wanted to ask you if I should flip to flower...
My setup:

Room: 1.20x.120x2.00m
LED Panel: 6pcs 120w cree cxb3590 + 72pcs 5w Epileds. Dimeable. 1080w. Light color White/Red/Blue/Orange/IR. Im running the white COBs and Blues at full potency. Reds off.
Temperature: 21-26°C.
Humidity: 45-60%
Watering serving size: 3liters for the 6 plants.
Watering frecuency: Every other day. (Ex. Monday, Wednesday, Friday)
Nutrients: PH Perfect Connoisseur A & B, B-52. (Vodoo Juice and Piranha in the early stages)
Nutrients frecuency: Intercalated
Pot sizes: 20L airpots.
Age: 4 weeks old.

They are 6 plants. 3 ayahuasca purple and 3 grandaddy purple. From barneys farm and blimburn seeds.

That is my doubt you guys, i toped each plant in the fourth node as the pictures shows. But some plants have been developing faster than others. So what should I do? I also tied the side branches of the bigger plants to develop an even canopy.
Should I wait for the smaller plants to developt further? Or should I flip to flower? Should I throw a screen and SCROG it?

What is my best option for the best quality buds and biggest yield?

Thank you guys!!!
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growingforfun

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Your going to run into nutrient imbalance watering like that. 500ml each? In 20L pots? Forget that.
You need to allow to dry completely and then water till runoff, hell maybe 500+ml of run off. That may end up being 5-10L per plant.
When my plant wants water I dont even start to get runoff until over just a bit over 1/3 the container volume threw it..
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
Your going to run into nutrient imbalance watering like that. 500ml each? In 20L pots? Forget that.
You need to allow to dry completely and then water till runoff, hell maybe 500+ml of run off. That may end up being 5-10L per plant.
When my plant wants water I dont even start to get runoff until over just a bit over 1/3 the container volume threw it..
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Im OK with that but misses my point
 
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growingforfun

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There's a few options on flowering style, for my taste you've got a bit too many plants for a scrog but it is still a option.

Your best bet may be to just let them grow up tree style. Any plants that are lagging can be boosted up by setting something under them to even out the canopy. This also let's you rotate them and move them around.
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
There's a few options on flowering style, for my taste you've got a bit too many plants for a scrog but it is still a option.

Your best bet may be to just let them grow up tree style. Any plants that are lagging can be boosted up by setting something under them to even out the canopy. This also let's you rotate them and move them around.
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Thats what I usually do. The tree style. What specifically do you mean by setting something under them to even the canopy? Setting what?

Thanks!
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
I like to use my old college books or milk crates. Anything to give them a boost up.
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Oooh you mean like boost the height of the pot hahaha I thought a boost of growth hahaha.
In addition to control de nutrients dosage how long should I wait for the flip?

Thanks again
 
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growingforfun

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Esteban Soto said:
Oooh you mean like boost the height of the pot hahaha I thought a boost of growth hahaha.
In addition to control de nutrients dosage how long should I wait for the flip?

Thanks again
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I wouldn't wait too long, you've got a lot of plants in there in decent sized containers by the look of it to me, as a ratio of available space.
I think if you have 4 instead of 6, you could easily wait 3 more weeks. As is, maybe a week.

Every strain is a little different ya know?

Lemme share a short story.

I was gifted a clone that was around 16 inches an scrawny, I was about to go into flower with plants I had babied and loved. Those vegged maybe 2 months. This new clone looked like a pos, a stick in the ground, too tall for it's own good. I left it in the kitchen a few days, not caring about this pos. I took kitchen scissors, cut it in half roughly, just saying fuck it. Put it in a 5 gal pot an flowered it at around 8 or 10 inches.
That pos yielded about 12 oz. The others yielded around 3 to 4 oz each or less. So ya. Hard to predict.
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
I wouldn't wait too long, you've got a lot of plants in there in decent sized containers by the look of it to me, as a ratio of available space.
I think if you have 4 instead of 6, you could easily wait 3 more weeks. As is, maybe a week.

Every strain is a little different ya know?

Lemme share a short story.

I was gifted a clone that was around 16 inches an scrawny, I was about to go into flower with plants I had babied and loved. Those vegged maybe 2 months. This new clone looked like a pos, a stick in the ground, too tall for it's own good. I left it in the kitchen a few days, not caring about this pos. I took kitchen scissors, cut it in half roughly, just saying fuck it. Put it in a 5 gal pot an flowered it at around 8 or 10 inches.
That pos yielded about 12 oz. The others yielded around 3 to 4 oz each or less. So ya. Hard to predict.
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Hahaha I see.

Well since I'm giving them 1 more week. It means only one more week with veg nutrients. Do you care to be more specific about the watering improvments that I have to do?

I have to let the soil dry completly and then water with 3+Liters each until I see water coming from.the bottom of the pot? And proceed with that type of watering for flowering period?


Thanks in advance dude
 
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growingforfun

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Esteban Soto said:
Hahaha I see.

Well since I'm giving them 1 more week. It means only one more week with veg nutrients. Do you care to be more specific about the watering improvments that I have to do?

I have to let the soil dry completly and then water with 3+Liters each until I see water coming from.the bottom of the pot? And proceed with that type of watering for flowering period?


Thanks in advance dude
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Exactly, watering until runoff helps wash out buildup in the soil. I really do it a extensive amount personally, more than is nessisary but it works very very well for me. When I water my plant that's in a 35 ish gallon container I'll run about 15 or 20 gallons of water through it, this makes around 7 gallons of runoff. Then another 10 gallons of nutrient water through it on top of that.
Now all that isn't necessary, half of that ratio is plenty. But it keeps my plants very very happy when I put in that extra effort.
 
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growingforfun

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"When I water my plant that's in a 35 ish gallon container I'll run about 15 or 20 gallons of water through it, this makes around 7 gallons of runoff. Then another 10 gallons of nutrient water through it on top of that.
Now all that isn't necessary, half of that ratio is plenty. But it keeps my plants very very happy when I put in that extra effort."


It's not overwatering if the plant drys out in between. Overwatering is watering over and over before it dries.
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
"When I water my plant that's in a 35 ish gallon container I'll run about 15 or 20 gallons of water through it, this makes around 7 gallons of runoff. Then another 10 gallons of nutrient water through it on top of that.
Now all that isn't necessary, half of that ratio is plenty. But it keeps my plants very very happy when I put in that extra effort."


It's not overwatering if the plant drys out in between. Overwatering is watering over and over before it dries.
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Hahaha thanks for making it more clear. English isn't my native language so thanks!!
How much is a galon? And what size are your pots? Just to make myself an idea and/or ratio about it.

How long does it take between watering? I mean to be completly dry for you to water again?
 
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growingforfun

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Esteban Soto said:
Hahaha thanks for making it more clear. English isn't my native language so thanks!!
How much is a galon? And what size are your pots? Just to make myself an idea and/or ratio about it.

How long does it take between watering? I mean to be completly dry for you to water again?
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To find out the ratio my units dont matter, you can ignore the unit and use the numbers as they are the same. 20 into 35, then 10 more. That makes almost a 1:1 ratio of container to fluid.
But there's 4 liters per gallon if that helps you. So my 35 ish gallon container is like 140 liter, and 80 liters water, then 40 liters nutrient water. Bingo bango.
 
Esteban Soto

Esteban Soto

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growingforfun said:
To find out the ratio my units dont matter, you can ignore the unit and use the numbers as they are the same. 20 into 35, then 10 more. That makes almost a 1:1 ratio of container to fluid.
But there's 4 liters per gallon if that helps you. So my 35 ish gallon container is like 140 liter, and 80 liters water, then 40 liters nutrient water. Bingo bango.
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I see and about the time for dry the pot?
Im thinking two whole days?
 
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growingforfun

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For me where I'm personally at in my grow its 4-5 days. It will probably get to be needing water ever day or every other day during peak flower but I won't know for sure till I'm there an doing it.
 
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