Oohhh that’s a bit long for me. I like nine weekers, I may be one of the few who doesn’t keep my CnC lady. I hope the OBS doesn’t run even longer, she looks to be the best yielder, so far.I've only ran 3 girls of 3 strains, but every one has went past 70; a couple past 80. I'm hoping to shorten finish time and add some terps to copper chem with an orgi transfusion.
Hey @greenpointseeds - want to partner on a Copper Orgi freebie RIU giveaway for your labor day promotion?
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The 50% sale not long ago included all the discontinued strains....yea, but the discontinued prolly won't have the discount nor the reverse auction, lol. I realize thats asking too much, just sayin. hehe
I also seen phylos getting bashed recently on IG, they were basically telling people that an f3 or f4 is IBL.Long, slightly off topic, slightly ranty post incoming.
I have very real problems with Phylos. Back in a different life, I did evolutionary genomics research. It involved sequencing random snippets of DNA across the entire genome, and comparing these snippets of DNA from hundreds of individuals against each other to determine their phylogenetic relationships, identifying regions of the genome underlying specific traits, and to identify genomic regions under selection in different habitats. I don’t do anything even remotely similar anymore, but I do have a very strong background in genomics research.
There are some giant pitfalls that can make genomic analysis extremely misleading. This is why scientific papers are extremely long and extremely dry. The majority of the paper is simply outlining the methods used so other scientists can determine if the results are justified or not.
These issues include but are not limited to 3 big things. What region or regions of the genome are being sequenced and analyzed? What algorithms are being used for the analysis? Finally, what is the complete data set used for the analysis?
The data set...without a sufficiently large data set, results can be deceiving. This is why your ancestry.com or 23&me results can change over time. Your dna isn’t changing, their data set is becoming larger and more complete. (Side note - I think those sites are a ripoff).
Algorithms...this is a hugely complex topic, but suffice to say, there are multiple different methods for analyzing genomic data, some are better suited than others for specific analyses or regions of the genome. Selecting the correct algorithm is a very important aspect of any genomic analysis.
What genomic region or regions are being sequenced. It’s important to understand that every organism’s genome doesn’t have one specific lineage. Rather, the genome is composed of thousands and thousands of genomic regions that all have their own distinct lineage. A gene that has undergone strong selection in multiple unrelated populations will lead someone to erroneously deduce that the populations are closely related. For a relationship analysis of closely related plants, you ideally want to sequence from thousands of genomic regions throughout the entire genome. At this point, I have no idea what genomic regions are being sequenced by phylos, but I do have some guesses. In short, I don’t think their analyses are particularly accurate because I don’t think they’re sequencing enough of the genome.
Finally, on to OGs and potential S1’s. For a poly hybrid like the OG (I’m assuming) you should absolutely be able to tell an S1 from the parent with a thorough genomic analysis. You will still get recombination of genes that are heterozygous in the parent, and a good genomic analysis can identify this. This is why I don’t find Phylos’ analyses particularly compelling. If they’re finding all OGs to be identical, then they’re not genotyping individuals to a thorough enough level. They’re likely just sequencing a few genic regions which is an outdated method of comparing relationships of related plants.
Personally, I believe all the pure OGs are either 1) renamed cuts, 2) S1’s of the original Ghost OG from Orgnkid, or 3) S1’s of S1’s. Also, I personally believe the original OG came from a Triangle Kush S1.
Here’s an interesting post from ThaDocta on OG cuts.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7664527&postcount=1849
e has went past 70; a couple past 80. I'm hoping to shorten finish time and add some terps to copper chem with an orgi transfusion.
Hey @greenpointseeds - want to partner on a Copper Orgi freebie RIU giveaway for your labor day promotion?
How far along is the dogshit pheno in this pic?Here is the dog shit one. The bud structure is more like an og or something.
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This is number 4 the Haze looking buds and takes forever. The stems get floppy.
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I have a ton of those silicone jars, and never once thought of using them to soak seeds. Nice pro tip.Dropped some seeds for a soak last night.
Full Moon Fever
Golden Nugget
Cheap Thrills
Albert Super Tramp (I believe this is coming in the next CV drop) Albert Walker/Arcata Trainwreck
See if I can get lucky and pull two fems from this half pack of GPS. I hate to germ a whole pack just for 2 plants needed.
My plan is to pickup a 3x3 tent throw the Blackdog 400 in there. Build a strip light set up for the 2x4 when I get ready to flower, thinking 10 2' sammies with an adjustable driver?? Have 4 in each tent...what ya all think about that? This will be my second indoor grow, and I'm really diggin it. So any suggestions are welcome from you experienced growers.
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yep and I got some. Reverse auction has been my best so far, I had the tombstone down to 31 and went it went to 28, I pushin buttons fast and checking out, and boom, disappeared, go back to shop, lol. Keep tryingThe 50% sale not long ago included all the discontinued strains....
I've got it down to a science and when that last price drop hits, nobody beats me on the trigger.yep and I got some. Reverse auction has been my best so far, I had the tombstone down to 31 and went it went to 28, I pushin buttons fast and checking out, and boom, disappeared, go back to shop, lol. Keep trying
Just noticed that one of AST has a tail, 8 hour soak...impressive.Dropped some seeds for a soak last night.
Full Moon Fever
Golden Nugget
Cheap Thrills
Albert Super Tramp (I believe this is coming in the next CV drop) Albert Walker/Arcata Trainwreck
See if I can get lucky and pull two fems from this half pack of GPS. I hate to germ a whole pack just for 2 plants needed.
My plan is to pickup a 3x3 tent throw the Blackdog 400 in there. Build a strip light set up for the 2x4 when I get ready to flower, thinking 10 2' sammies with an adjustable driver?? Have 4 in each tent...what ya all think about that? This will be my second indoor grow, and I'm really diggin it. So any suggestions are welcome from you experienced growers.
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I was thinking of writing up a python script to scrape information from the reverse auction and interact with it. Could be done in 50 or 60 lines of code probably. Decided it would be a very unfair advantage, I've got everything I want anyway from Gu~I've got it down to a science and when that last price drop hits, nobody beats me on the trigger.
Although @Michael Huntherz has threatened to write a javascript.
I can't compete with automation...
Tombstone is on my radar.yep and I got some. Reverse auction has been my best so far, I had the tombstone down to 31 and went it went to 28, I pushin buttons fast and checking out, and boom, disappeared, go back to shop, lol. Keep trying
Lol, I did threaten that, and I could totally do it, but I have a tiny shred of ethics holding me back. Also, I seem to have no shortage of seeds.I've got it down to a science and when that last price drop hits, nobody beats me on the trigger.
Although @Michael Huntherz has threatened to write a javascript.
I can't compete with automation...
That’s the only pack I really want from GPS at the moment, I keep dragging my feet on it. I would rather get the legit BD cut, though.Whoever sniped dream catcher off me earlier was bloody quick lol
Funny you should mention dreamcatcher -- mine arrived today!That’s the only pack I really want from GPS at the moment, I keep dragging my feet on it. I would rather get the legit BD cut, though.
console.log(typeof null) // “object”Lol, I did threaten that, and I could totally do it, but I have a tiny shred of ethics holding me back. Also, I seem to have no shortage of seeds.
Python could do it pretty easily, but ECMAscript (JavaScript) has become an assembly language for the web, which is why I picked it. Nice to know there are other script kiddies like me running around, @Lurpin.