Maximum Wage: Limiting CEO Pay

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I call bullshit, 100% projection. All you do here is cry, mostly about buck and more than usual lately.
Fortunately no one appointed you referee.

I don't suppose you have anything to add on the thread topic, or are you just here to whine and throw shade, like usual?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Why do hold michiganmethsmoker to a different standard than me?

All while you accuse others of playing favorites, too funny.

Just for the record one who parrots lies about people to hurt them.

I never smoked meth. We just snorted some in high school in the 80’s. And it wasnt the same drug you see destroying people today.

You have no class when you post.
 

ttystikk

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Just for the record one who parrots lies about people to hurt them.

I never smoked meth. We just snorted some in high school in the 80’s. And it wasnt the same drug you see destroying people today.

You have no class when you post.
When did he ever have any class?
 

travisw

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The favoritism has been getting more and more obvious lately.

Seems to be rising in direct proportion to their inability to argue against the Progressive Left viewpoints expressed here of late.

It's as if they're even more afraid of the Left than they are of the Right. In that they mirror the establishment Democratic Party pretty well.
Rising in proportion to their inability to argue against the Progressive left?

You've were sniveling about favoritism almost three years ago.

It doesn't sound like it's the arguing thing.

Yes they play favorites here. Best to put the trolls on ignore. I don't have time for morons, anyway. Who does?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The Russians haven't done anything we haven't done far worse, more often and with many times the casualties.

The sooner you accept that really, the sooner you'll be able to understand the situation as it really is; a nice, think layer of bullshit covering up all manner of American malfeasance and criminal activity, both foreign and domestic.
i understand, and have for a long time. i don't think we're any worse than any other major country, we just operate on a larger stage than most. there's a difference between recognizing a thing and being able to stop it. i don't like it, but no one has ever pointed out the "stop the stupid shit" button to me. i've voted since i've been able to, and i've never ran a straight party ticket. it's turned out to be about 60/40 dem./repub., just because that's who seemed better to me when it was time to vote. the best choices i could make have led us to this.....
i do not blame myself. i blame the broken ass system that doesn't have the decency to lay down and die. it's getting close to time to put it out of our misery
 

Budley Doright

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Yeah, but a lot of them already work harder at their golf game than their company's profitability numbers.

The number of zeros in the compensation package seems to have little to do with performance.
Seriously TTY, you honestly think the majority of corporate CEO’s are not working hard at what they do? The successful CEO’s/owners that I know spend most of their lives working and not playing golf, yes there are exceptions though...cough...Trump...cough. And then we have the $20,000,000 a year athletes. Do you want to limit their compensation as well? I hear you and I agree with the ideal that the money/profits would be better used to distribute more fairly to the actual workers, I just think limiting salaries by caps is a slippery slope. The war against unions by your GOP is a telling story of their agenda to limit the power of the working populace. I also agree we need this discussion, the middle class is no longer the middle class, but the struggling to make ends meet class, me included :(.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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sports franchises should have to pay a 50% tax. they're nothing but a huge luxury, and should be taxed as such. 25% to the state they're in, 25% to the fed. and the players should be taxed just like anyone else, (not saying they aren't) the more you make, the more you pay.
the tax rate ought to slide up to 40% for the top 1% . they apparently like making money, they ought to enjoy the opportunity to make enough to pay their taxes.
no more offshore shelters, no more financial wiggling, if you reside in this country, you pay taxes on your total yearly income. if you do business in this country, your business pays taxes on it's total yearly income.
no more tax breaks to incentive businesses, if no one is offering them, that makes it a fair playing field.
i don't have a problem with people who work hard and make themselves a lot of money. if you feel that drive, go for it.
what i do have a problem with is weaseling out of paying your fair share of the bill. you don't get to use this country to make yourself wealthy, then get out of giving uncle sam his cut. i say that's close to treason. and i say tRUMP is treasonous for that reason, among many others
 

ttystikk

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i understand, and have for a long time. i don't think we're any worse than any other major country, we just operate on a larger stage than most. there's a difference between recognizing a thing and being able to stop it. i don't like it, but no one has ever pointed out the "stop the stupid shit" button to me. i've voted since i've been able to, and i've never ran a straight party ticket. it's turned out to be about 60/40 dem./repub., just because that's who seemed better to me when it was time to vote. the best choices i could make have led us to this.....
i do not blame myself. i blame the broken ass system that doesn't have the decency to lay down and die. it's getting close to time to put it out of our misery
We aren't worse??

Name another country that's killed a million innocent civilians in the last 20 years.

ANYWHERE.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Seriously TTY, you honestly think the majority of corporate CEO’s are not working hard at what they do? The successful CEO’s/owners that I know spend most of their lives working and not playing golf, yes there are exceptions though...cough...Trump...cough. And then we have the $20,000,000 a year athletes. Do you want to limit their compensation as well? I hear you and I agree with the ideal that the money/profits would be better used to distribute more fairly to the actual workers, I just think limiting salaries by caps is a slippery slope. The war against unions by your GOP is a telling story of their agenda to limit the power of the working populace. I also agree we need this discussion, the middle class is no longer the middle class, but the struggling to make ends meet class, me included :(.
I want these people to pay taxes. Our country worked best with high taxes on wealthy people.

No one NEEDS a billion dollars. It's just a weapon to be used to control others.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
sports franchises should have to pay a 50% tax. they're nothing but a huge luxury, and should be taxed as such. 25% to the state they're in, 25% to the fed. and the players should be taxed just like anyone else, (not saying they aren't) the more you make, the more you pay.
the tax rate ought to slide up to 40% for the top 1% . they apparently like making money, they ought to enjoy the opportunity to make enough to pay their taxes.
no more offshore shelters, no more financial wiggling, if you reside in this country, you pay taxes on your total yearly income. if you do business in this country, your business pays taxes on it's total yearly income.
no more tax breaks to incentive businesses, if no one is offering them, that makes it a fair playing field.
i don't have a problem with people who work hard and make themselves a lot of money. if you feel that drive, go for it.
what i do have a problem with is weaseling out of paying your fair share of the bill. you don't get to use this country to make yourself wealthy, then get out of giving uncle sam his cut. i say that's close to treason. and i say tRUMP is treasonous for that reason, among many others
The only gripe I have with this is that I think your proposed rates are too low.

That's a quibble. Let's at least get started.
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
We aren't worse??

Name another country that's killed a million innocent civilians in the last 20 years.

ANYWHERE.
A draft of a 2007 combined World Bank and SEPA report stated that up to 760,000 people died prematurely each year in China because of air and water pollution. High levels of air pollution in China's cities caused to 350,000-400,000 premature deaths.

Oh, wait that's stockholders. My bad.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.history.com/topics/ethnic-cleansing

https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/

http://theconversation.com/twenty-years-after-srebrenica-ethnic-cleansing-has-become-a-defence-to-genocide-44376

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/11/550114414/ethnic-cleansing-now-unfolding-under-a-nobel-peace-prize-winner-u-n-says

the only mention of America in these articles is the treatment of the Indians by the settlers and later the government.
i am not defending our actions abroad. i'm sure there are many shameful things going on, but i don't think we're even close to the only ones that should be hanging our heads.
i'd like to be able to disband the cia and the nsa. as soon as china, russia, iran, iraq, kuwait, north korea........and several others, dismember their equivalents and call all their agents home, we should do the same.
 

ttystikk

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https://www.history.com/topics/ethnic-cleansing

https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/

http://theconversation.com/twenty-years-after-srebrenica-ethnic-cleansing-has-become-a-defence-to-genocide-44376

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/11/550114414/ethnic-cleansing-now-unfolding-under-a-nobel-peace-prize-winner-u-n-says

the only mention of America in these articles is the treatment of the Indians by the settlers and later the government.
i am not defending our actions abroad. i'm sure there are many shameful things going on, but i don't think we're even close to the only ones that should be hanging our heads.
i'd like to be able to disband the cia and the nsa. as soon as china, russia, iran, iraq, kuwait, north korea........and several others, dismember their equivalents and call all their agents home, we should do the same.
I did mention the time period after 9/11. I'm well aware that there have been plenty of mass killings throughout history.
 
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