Strips vs cobs grow

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1212ham

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Has anyone done it? I said strips have better distribution and a new guy says I'm splitting hairs. Maybe I am?

We know strips have better penetration. We know strips can be run lower, wasting less light on the walls.
But in the end, how much effect does it really have on a grow?
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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Do strips really have better penetration? It would make sense that a higher powered individual light would have better penetration and less spread than a strip. Granted a single cob would have hot center versus a strip. Is there some evidence to support this? I do run both.. cobs up top and strips as side lighting. Not trolling
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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I run Cobs, and to me, they are kickin ass, for little watts im using. I personally think, the plants enjoy the heat radiated from the light source, and Im not sure strips ( SMDs) cause they same heating effect that the plant likes. I like to get my leaf temp up to 84F,

Going to be an interesting thread tho, im just a fan of "beaming" light source, I was also a big fan of Mono-with optics, because I had great success with those to. I also build a Strip light rig, but used the $0.02 cent ebay strips, LOL.. Big fan of strips on side lighting, because you can get them closer. Id like to see some curved Strips.
 
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1212ham

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Boatguy said:
Do strips really have better penetration? It would make sense that a higher powered individual light would have better penetration and less spread than a strip. Granted a single cob would have hot center versus a strip. Is there some evidence to support this? I do run both.. cobs up top and strips as side lighting. Not trolling
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Penetration doesn't come from light being so intense that it passes through a leaf and onto the one below. Penetration comes from well distributed light, the light comes at the plant from multiple angles, getting under those big shade leaves.

" Is there evidence to support this?" Sure, put a cob over a plant and look at the shadow and light lower down on the plant. Now put a strip light over the plant, the difference is obvious. The better the distribution, the better the penetration. It's all been covered extensively here in the LED section.
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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1212ham said:
Penetration doesn't come from light being so intense that it passes through a leaf and onto the one below. Penetration comes from well distributed light, the light comes at the plant from multiple angles, getting under those big shade leaves.

" Is there evidence to support this?" Sure, put a cob over a plant and look at the shadow and light lower down on the plant. Now put a strip light over the plant, the difference is obvious. The better the distribution, the better the penetration. It's all been covered extensively here in the LED section.
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So run more cobs, obviously not as close as strips. Would i get better penetration then?

I have read the majority of threads here but thanks for the heads up.
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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These threads are a little silly really. I personally grow micro so i have 10 cxa 1507's up top with strips as side lighting. Obviously not going to produce a boatload with that. If efficient strips were available back then i may have gone that route. Either which way, the differences you and a multitude of other threads in the led section swear by really, result in little if any difference in actual weight at harvest time.
 
boilingoil

boilingoil

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Heisengrow said:
30 cobs over a 4x10 1500 watts,Vero29 80 CRI D series,6 drivers 240 1400mA 5 cobs per driver.
Super efficient,Bright as fuck,keep them about 18 inches up.
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Sure,but these where grown with 23 wsf and although I'm still waiting for the dry they will more than likely be in the 2 gpw range.
At 37 wsf, with HPS I pull 1.2-1.4 gpw. So where is the efficacy of LEDs over the HPS.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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boilingoil said:
Sure,but these where grown with 23 wsf and although I'm still waiting for the dry they will more than likely be in the 2 gpw range.
At 37 wsf, with HPS I pull 1.2-1.4 gpw. So where is the efficacy of LEDs over the HPS.
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GPW dont mean shiznit.GP kilowatt hour is everything.you could have vegged them plants for 2 months and got 4gpw that still dont mean nothing.im in rdwc and can easily veg for 8 weeks and pull a pound a plant but it would take me 4 months to do it.
There is no denying the science led puts out more micromoles per watt.thats a fact.not an assumption.not talking about cheap ass blurple LED here I'm talking about quality components.
You think I would spend 2300 dollars on cobs to cover up a 4x10 unless they knocked the dicks off my HPS?your crazy as hell.
 
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