The 12-12 From Seed Thread

Gbuddy

Gbuddy

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numberfour said:
Yeah its great although the new tent has the same floor space its taller by around 40cm which allows a little headroom between plant, boards and carbon filter. Sounds like nothing and it is really but it will make a huge difference. I had to bend over half the plants this run, I pack as many plants in as I can so horizontal flowering is a no no for me.

New board will dim from 135w down to around 60w, I've found these boards work best dimmed in my environment so I'll probably try run both for a while and see how it goes lol.

I like the way you think. Last week I added a 26w red TLED, penetration is weak as hell but and it only covers a couple of tops of the plants but its made up of 45% 3000k 45% 2100k 10% infared 3000lu. Interested to see what effect this will have.

Thanks, yeah they're doing great so far.
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Sorry Bro english isnt my mothertongue. You got me wrong I believe.
Horizontal growth....wasnt ment in an aspect of leafe and stem growth but budswelling. Like when a bud gets light not only from the top but from added sidelights it will swell way more.

The simple rule that I recognised behind growing is that....
Try to minimize stress in any form for the plant posdible.(provide everything the plant needs as good as possible)
And more roots+more air(oxygen co2)+more light = more bud.
I subjectivly would even say the light plays the first role.
The rewards given by the cannabis species for this is unreal.
Have seen modern grows in soil with close to 2g/watt and that is not just unbelieveable its just possible using todays technologies and the needed watts.

Some people who want to sell nutes will tell you its the 16 amino acids they use to create the "EFFECT" but you should rather recognize those 10+ x 600watters hanging vertically around the plants. Those lights are responsible for that monster effect.
Krusty from canada just used GH 3part and created the same if not better effect without other shit just his own freedombucket system! Back at overgrow and other forums!
Everybody hated him back in da day for pulling 1-1,5/watt this way. Today there are better lights that can do even more with less work involved!

Peace
 
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Big Green Thumb

Big Green Thumb

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SweetestCheeba said:
Is anyone here familiar with Vipar Spectra LEDs?
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Vipars are cheapo led lights. They will grow weed but produce some heat. They are not in the same league as strips, cobs, or quantum boards. Vipar efficiency is about the same as HPS. Don't believe their claims of equivalent watts bullshit. I have one sitting on the shelf -- a "450 watt" light that pulls 192 actual watts from the wall, that performs like a 192 watt HPS. So if you want to replace a 400 watt HPS, you will need 2+ Vipar "450 watt" lights.
 
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numberfour

numberfour

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Gbuddy said:
Sorry Bro english isnt my mothertongue. You got me wrong I believe.
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Nah, I understood you fine mate but my reply was not...I ment / should have put horizontal plants, as in once the stem has been bent in half, all cool though :bigjoint:

I flower in soil and in my main room aim for 1.5gpw and higher running multiple (15 - 20) strains...not got there yet, 1.3gpw is my average the past year. Mono cropping I could hit higher numbers but I can't think of anything worse for me than flowering one strain.

Genetics play a lot too, I have some Chem crosses which crush it in yield, some other strains which just dont but the smoke is great off those. Nute compaine's are the biggest scam in the world, I do use two bottles though, Biobizz fish mix and bloom but thats it.
 
Gbuddy

Gbuddy

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numberfour said:
Nah, I understood you fine mate but my reply was not...I ment / should have put horizontal plants, as in once the stem has been bent in half, all cool though :bigjoint:

I flower in soil and in my main room aim for 1.5gpw and higher running multiple (15 - 20) strains...not got there yet, 1.3gpw is my average the past year. Mono cropping I could hit higher numbers but I can't think of anything worse for me than flowering one strain.

Genetics play a lot too, I have some Chem crosses which crush it in yield, some other strains which just dont but the smoke is great off those. Nute compaine's are the biggest scam in the world, I do use two bottles though, Biobizz fish mix and bloom but thats it.
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With multiple strains its even hard to hit those 1.3gpw! Congrats!!!
With only one selected high yielding clone its a other story.

But if you do not grow comercialy you grow more than one. Just for variety. Daytime and night smoke.
Same here. Always at the hunt for new great plants.

Peace

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I am a soilman too.
Make the most parts myself by composting the horse poop from gf' s horses. Great stuff!
 
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