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Gillum’s miraculous night

too larry

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I think you are right. IMO, Gillum would be better off running on policies and let DeSantis do the race baiting. Could it be that the ad you heard was from a PAC that isn't part of the Gillum campaign?
It wasn't race baiting. It was just a bio ad saying he is from a large black family and if elected, he would be Florida's 1st AA Governor. I'm not sure what's the racial breakdown of ESPNU viewers in my area, but I'm betting the ads for black radio and all will go into that theme much heavier.

He does have to be careful {on policies} not to get the opposition too fired up. You want them to have a low turnout. And like Buck said, this being midterms, it's hard to predict turnout.
 

travisw

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It wasn't race baiting. It was just a bio ad saying he is from a large black family and if elected, he would be Florida's 1st AA Governor. I'm not sure what's the racial breakdown of ESPNU viewers in my area, but I'm betting the ads for black radio and all will go into that theme much heavier.

He does have to be careful {on policies} not to get the opposition too fired up. You want them to have a low turnout. And like Buck said, this being midterms, it's hard to predict turnout.
Anything being made of the FBI investigation Gillum's attached to where you are Larry?

What we know — and don’t know — about the FBI investigation hanging over Andrew Gillum’s campaign
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/07/20/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-the-fbi-investigation-hanging-over-andrew-gillums-campaign/
 

too larry

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Anything being made of the FBI investigation Gillum's attached to where you are Larry?

What we know — and don’t know — about the FBI investigation hanging over Andrew Gillum’s campaign
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/07/20/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-the-fbi-investigation-hanging-over-andrew-gillums-campaign/
I had heard something about it. {about the fact there was one, not what they had found} But I listen to the NPR station out of Tallahassee. Everyone in City Hall seemed to be on the take one way or the other. Lots of them in trouble.
 

schuylaar

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It wasn't race baiting. It was just a bio ad saying he is from a large black family and if elected, he would be Florida's 1st AA Governor. I'm not sure what's the racial breakdown of ESPNU viewers in my area, but I'm betting the ads for black radio and all will go into that theme much heavier.

He does have to be careful {on policies} not to get the opposition too fired up. You want them to have a low turnout. And like Buck said, this being midterms, it's hard to predict turnout.
you mean like schuylaar said? THEN buck said..?
 
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schuylaar

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Anything being made of the FBI investigation Gillum's attached to where you are Larry?

What we know — and don’t know — about the FBI investigation hanging over Andrew Gillum’s campaign
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/07/20/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-the-fbi-investigation-hanging-over-andrew-gillums-campaign/
never heard of this..but aren't we innocent until PROVEN guilty? let's see some charges..stop judging through the headlines. Besides it's not on FOX so can't be important. amirite?
 

travisw

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never heard of this..but aren't we innocent until PROVEN guilty? let's see some charges..stop judging through the headlines. Besides it's not on FOX so can't be important. amirite?
What part of:

Anything being made of the FBI investigation Gillum's attached to where you are Larry?

implied judgement?

Listen, I laughed at the hypocrisy of you Bernie Bros, for abandoning your stance on campaign finance, once a candidate you wanted, needed money, but if you're pretending his connection to a corruption probe won't be mentioned by a guy who implied he was a fucking monkey, you're deluding yourself.

Florida Dem who scored upset primary victory haunted by city's corruption probe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/29/florida-dem-who-scored-upset-primary-victory-haunted-by-citys-corruption-probe.html


“He is embroiled in a lot of corruption scandals,” Gillum’s Republican opponent DeSantis, who won the GOP nomination for governor Tuesday, said on Fox News. “This guy can't even run the city of Tallahassee. There is no way Florida voters can entrust him with our entire state.”

“With Andrew Gillum, Florida Democrats have selected a radical far-left politician who remains at the center of an FBI anti-corruption investigation,” the Republican Governors Association said Tuesday.

Gillum in 2016 also interacted with an undercover FBI agent who was posing as a businessman interested in investing in Tallahassee, according to those reports. He was introduced to that agent by lobbyist Adam Corey, a longtime friend who has since been subpoenaed as part the probe.

According to the Tampa Bay Times, Gillum scheduled a meeting with the undercover FBI agent while on a Costa Rica vacation with Corey in 2016.
 

schuylaar

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What part of:

Anything being made of the FBI investigation Gillum's attached to where you are Larry?

implied judgement?

Listen, I laughed at the hypocrisy of you Bernie Bros, for abandoning your stance on campaign finance, once a candidate you wanted, needed money, but if you're pretending his connection to a corruption probe won't be mentioned by a guy who implied he was a fucking monkey, you're deluding yourself.

Florida Dem who scored upset primary victory haunted by city's corruption probe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/29/florida-dem-who-scored-upset-primary-victory-haunted-by-citys-corruption-probe.html


“He is embroiled in a lot of corruption scandals,” Gillum’s Republican opponent DeSantis, who won the GOP nomination for governor Tuesday, said on Fox News. “This guy can't even run the city of Tallahassee. There is no way Florida voters can entrust him with our entire state.”

“With Andrew Gillum, Florida Democrats have selected a radical far-left politician who remains at the center of an FBI anti-corruption investigation,” the Republican Governors Association said Tuesday.

Gillum in 2016 also interacted with an undercover FBI agent who was posing as a businessman interested in investing in Tallahassee, according to those reports. He was introduced to that agent by lobbyist Adam Corey, a longtime friend who has since been subpoenaed as part the probe.

According to the Tampa Bay Times, Gillum scheduled a meeting with the undercover FBI agent while on a Costa Rica vacation with Corey in 2016.

go for it..not like trump is an innocent- rather human according to the texas evangelicals who are bank rolling zionists, second only to the jews themselves..ever ask yourself why?

doubtful since it has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders or Progressivism. why do you hate the idea of working one job and living wage? health for all? school that doesn't have to be paid back with a mercedes payment on $12/hour?

you're not guilty in this country until the headlines are out..is that were we are now?
 
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Fogdog

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go for it..not like trump is an innocent- rather human according to the texas evangelicals who are bank rolling zionists, second only to the jews themselves..ever ask yourself why?

doubtful since it has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders or Progressivism. why do you hate the idea of working one job and living wage? health for all? school that doesn't have to be paid back with a mercedes payment on $12/hour?

you're not guilty in this country until the headlines are out..is that were we are now?
You do realize that if Gillum fails, especially if he fails due to this, it will be because your kind picked a bad candidate, don't you? No cries about rigged in November. He must win or he was a bad candidate.
 

schuylaar

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You do realize that if Gillum fails, especially if he fails due to this, it will be because your kind picked a bad candidate, don't you? No cries about rigged in November. He must win or he was a bad candidate.
i really wish you would stop saying 'your kind'..what the fvck? I don't think that way,, but it's obvi you do..tell me..what KIND am I? <rhetorical so please don't be a fool and try to answer>

Gillum MUST win or he's a bad candidate?:lol: <again, rhetorical>

Schuylaar has brought something to this forum that will infect you..<NOT rhetorical>
 

Fogdog

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i really wish you would stop saying 'your kind'..what the fvck? I don't think that way,, but it's obvi you do..tell me..what KIND am I? <rhetorical so please don't be a fool and try to answer>
Your kind are like you and not like most progressives. Most progressives recognize the harm that Desantis and HIS kind will do if they maintain power and will be happy to see Gillum win regardless of who they voted for in the primary. In your kind's case, you won't be affected by Republican depredations. So your kind just don't vote as a big fuck you to everybody else. Don't be surprised when we say fuck you back.
 

schuylaar

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Your kind are like you and not like most progressives. Most progressives recognize the harm that Desantis and HIS kind will do if they maintain power and will be happy to see Gillum win regardless of who they voted for in the primary. In your kind's case, you won't be affected by Republican depredations. So your kind just don't vote as a big fuck you to everybody else. Don't be surprised when we say fuck you back.
dude..I'm FEMALE and OVER 50 and am worrying whether or not since i didn't get paid all these years like my male counterparts, if/how the millenials are going to takeover the process of paying into SS when it comes my turn..i wonder how ripped off i'm going to get?

my kind:finger:
 

srh88

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dude..I'm FEMALE and OVER 50 and am worrying whether or not since i didn't get paid all these years like my male counterparts, if/how the millenials are going to takeover the process of paying into SS when it comes my turn..i wonder how ripped off i'm going to get?

my kind:finger:
What's your gender or age have to do with it? What he's saying is.. youll let a republican beat a democrat if the Dem isn't 100% in line with your beliefs. Instead of taking a step forward you'll take 2 steps back if things don't go your way
 

Fogdog

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dude..I'm FEMALE and OVER 50 and am worrying whether or not since i didn't get paid all these years like my male counterparts, if/how the millenials are going to takeover the process of paying into SS when it comes my turn..i wonder how ripped off i'm going to get?

my kind:finger:
Yeah, my point exactly. You aren't going to be affected and so "fuck you to everybody who will", give me Bernie or I'll give you Trump. Do you think Puerto Ricans or non-Cuban Hispanic families are ambivalent about DeSantis who is running on the platform that "all things Trump are good"? Not to mention race baiting.
 

schuylaar

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What's your gender or age have to do with it? What he's saying is.. youll let a republican beat a democrat if the Dem isn't 100% in line with your beliefs. Instead of taking a step forward you'll take 2 steps back if things don't go your way
that dog don't hunt..he already won the primary.
 

schuylaar

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Yeah, my point exactly. You aren't going to be affected and so "fuck you to everybody who will", give me Bernie or I'll give you Trump. Do you think Puerto Ricans or non-Cuban Hispanic families are ambivalent about DeSantis who is running on the platform that "all things Trump are good"? Not to mention race baiting.
you're insane..don't you have a job little spider?
 

Fogdog

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you're insane..don't you have a job little spider?
You don't discuss things very well. You would rather have DeSantis than a moderate Democrat who didn't check off all your little Progressive(TM) policy boxes. You are a woman receiving unequal pay to men and apparently counting on Social Security and Medicare as part of your retirement plan. Who is the insane one here?
 

Fogdog

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i really wish you would stop saying 'your kind'..what the fvck? I don't think that way,, but it's obvi you do..tell me..what KIND am I? <rhetorical so please don't be a fool and try to answer>

Gillum MUST win or he's a bad candidate?:lol: <again, rhetorical>

Schuylaar has brought something to this forum that will infect you..<NOT rhetorical>
He wins or he's a chump. Just like Hillary.
 
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