Super newbie, please help

Dspence710

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You did great! DO NOT go messing it up by adding a bunch of nitrogen. Give it some of that Fox farms and some molasses and you will be good to go! Also don't let the soil dry out too much. If the tips look burned you need more water. They like lots of water in flower.
I think the tub im using is like 27gallons. Probably only 22 gallons on soil though. Been giving it 4 to 5 gallons of water a day depending on how hot it is or how dry the soil looks. Is that still not enough water? I definitely get run off. And what does the molasses do?
 

Dmannn

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I think the tub im using is like 27gallons. Probably only 22 gallons on soil though. Been giving it 4 to 5 gallons of water a day depending on how hot it is or how dry the soil looks. Is that still not enough water? I definitely get run off. And what does the molasses do?
That should be enough, maybe too much. Try to shade the root zone so they won't cook in the sun. No amount of water can fix cooked roots.
 

Dspence710

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I need you guys to agree xD! Lol ok ok ill give it half the rec servings of the big bloom and cal mag every other day? Or just once and wait and see? And Need to find some nitrogen but just add very little?
 

Blitz35

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I think the tub im using is like 27gallons. Probably only 22 gallons on soil though. Been giving it 4 to 5 gallons of water a day depending on how hot it is or how dry the soil looks. Is that still not enough water? I definitely get run off. And what does the molasses do?
That's a larger scale than im used to lol, but whatever saturates the soil enough, is how much you should give, and you water when the container feels light, or the top 2 inches of soil is dry.
As for molasses (must be unsulphered), it feeds the beneficial bacteria in your soil. Normally the plant will do this throughout its life, but fruiting/flowering plants, once blossoms are ripening, will have a tendancy to hold onto these sugars so it can give them to the fruit, or flower in this case, growing, so there is less to go back into the soil for the bacteria, so the molasses helps with just that, to help keep the workers in the soil happy:)
 

Blitz35

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I need you guys to agree xD! Lol ok ok ill give it half the rec servings of the big bloom and cal mag every other day? Or just once and wait and see? And Need to find some nitrogen but just add very little?
Unless you are growing in coco, you won't need to add cal/mag that often. What is the source of your water? I'd say try the organics section for help with dosages and/or what you can get to feed them. maybe someone can suggest a tea to make that will help. Im used to my ppm meter and feeding mostly chemical nutes, so i wouldn't take a stab at advising you on how much or how often to add what, as i have no experience with organic feedings. I can only help with plant symptoms in this case :)
 

Blitz35

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Just an example, i had a plant a while back that i thought was an autoflowering type, so i kept feeding very low and just once in 4 weeks, and it was starving, but i didnt know what the issue was, i think it was my 3rd grow. I saw by week 6-7 that it was not an autoflower, so i gave it a higher dose of stronger food (25-10-10) at the end of week 8, the night i put her into flower, and within days she was new and 2 weeks later, she changed completely! I had no ppm meter or ph, just measured out some fertilizer in the cup provided, and went from 1 ml to 5ml i think, i thought i was killing it with that, but the way it was looking, i figured i have nothing to lose lol. Yours is not nearly as bad as mine was, but it goes fast, especially on a bigger plant!
 

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Dspence710

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Just an example, i had a plant a while back that i thought was an autoflowering type, so i kept feeding very low and just once in 4 weeks, and it was starving, but i didnt know what the issue was, i think it was my 3rd grow. I saw by week 6-7 that it was not an autoflower, so i gave it a higher dose of stronger food (25-10-10) at the end of week 8, the night i put her into flower, and within days she was new and 2 weeks later, she changed completely! I had no ppm meter or ph, just measured out some fertilizer in the cup provided, and went from 1 ml to 5ml i think, i thought i was killing it with that, but the way it was looking, i figured i have nothing to lose lol. Yours is not nearly as bad as mine was, but it goes fast, especially on a bigger plant!
Dude you are the true mvp! Helped me out so much more than google haha. Glad you were able to save your plant! So i guess ill just go back to the store and ask them what kind organic nitro supplement i should use. That last pic you have of the plant is gorgeous. Those kolas are huge!. I def wont have nugs like that
 

Blitz35

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Dude you are the true mvp! Helped me out so much more than google haha. Glad you were able to save your plant! So i guess ill just go back to the store and ask them what kind organic nitro supplement i should use.
Just remind them that you are into flowering, just trying to correct a small nitrogen deficiency. Nitrogen should not be overdone in flowering as it slows down/halts flowering if done in excess. It's why it's always important to start at quarter to half strength of recommendations and move up if needed. You also need a source of potassium and phosphorus, its not just a nitro supplement you need. The big bloom has almost no n-p-k value. I think the one you needed more was the grow big from them. Ultimately, you're looking for an n-p-k ratio around 2-1-3 (or 4-2-6) during vegetation, and flowering is more 1-2-3, or 2-4-6, and usually some bloom booster for mid flowering.
 
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Dspence710

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Just remind them that you are into flowering, just trying to correct a small nitrogen deficiency. Nitrogen should not be overdone in flowering as it slows down/halts flowering if done in excess. It's why it's always important to start at quarter to half strength of recommendations and move up if needed.
Ok sounds good ill tell them that, truly appreciate your help man.
 

Dspence710

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Just remind them that you are into flowering, just trying to correct a small nitrogen deficiency. Nitrogen should not be overdone in flowering as it slows down/halts flowering if done in excess. It's why it's always important to start at quarter to half strength of recommendations and move up if needed. You also need a source of potassium and phosphorus, its not just a nitro supplement you need. The big bloom has almost no n-p-k value. I think the one you needed more was the grow big from them.
Will the shooting powder help with phosphorus?
 

Blitz35

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Well, again, being organic, im not entirely sure how it works, but those p-k values are very low, and per the instructions, it's meant to be given alongside a regular feeding regimen and this is only for the ripening phase (last 3 weeks of flower).
It's a bit pricey, but in line with fox farm nute prices last i saw...sensibloom, from advanced nutrients is a good organic feed, but on the pricier end.
 

Dspence710

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Well, again, being organic, im not entirely sure how it works, but those p-k values are very low, and per the instructions, it's meant to be given alongside a regular feeding regimen and this is only for the ripening phase (last 3 weeks of flower).
Ok so basically i would need to use it with same brand supplements. And would only be used in a couple weeks from now. Pretty sure my plant is in week 4 flower, i think its supposed to go till late oct.
 

Dspence710

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Well, again, being organic, im not entirely sure how it works, but those p-k values are very low, and per the instructions, it's meant to be given alongside a regular feeding regimen and this is only for the ripening phase (last 3 weeks of flower).
It's a bit pricey, but in line with fox farm nute prices last i saw...sensibloom, from advanced nutrients is a good organic feed, but on the pricier end.
Ill look into that for sure. Gonna try to hit the store before it closes and tell them what you told me to. As for a natural supplement what would your opinion be on using fish emulsion?
 

Blitz35

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Ill look into that for sure. Gonna try to hit the store before it closes and tell them what you told me to. As for a natural supplement what would your opinion be on using fish emulsion?
You can use fish emulsion, a 2 part system is better as one usually has most of the n and some p and k along with micronutrients, and the other has the p and k in higher amounts along with usually magnesium and sulfur. With a 1 part system, you have to add all 3 (npk) in the same ratio always, which doesn't always work for the duration of a grow.
 

Dspence710

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You can use fish emulsion, a 2 part system is better as one usually has most of the n and some p and k along with micronutrients, and the other has the p and k in higher amounts along with usually magnesium and sulfur. With a 1 part system, you have to add all 3 (npk) in the same ratio always, which doesn't always work for the duration of a grow.
So being this far into the grow, would it be alright to use along side the cal mag and big bloom i have?
 
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