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Canada likely to continue progressive programs despite Trump’s dubious war on drugs

gb123

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As public policies go, America’s so-called War on Drugs was a dismal failure.

Kick-started by Richard Nixon in his first term as U.S. president, the strategy was based on the notion that the path to solving a growing illicit-drug problem in the country started and ended with suppliers. And so began efforts by a string of administrations to discourage dealers with heavy prison terms.

Despite early evidence that the strategy wasn’t working, it was not abandoned. Instead, presidents such as Ronald Reagan doubled down, introducing harsher mandatory sentencing for drug dealers and users of all manner and description. Very quickly, penal institutions filled to overflowing. Kids who were sent to prison for selling a little pot were eventually released back into society as hardened criminals. By some estimates, the country’s drug war cost taxpayers north of $1-trillion.


The approach was all but abandoned under Barack Obama, a man cerebral enough to understand that a different approach was needed. While he was never going to endorse the recommendation of many experts to control the distribution of illicit drugs through legalization and regulation, he was also not going to make any effort to block jurisdictions within the country from doing just that with cannabis. Soon, state after state was legalizing marijuana and reaping the financial rewards that came with regulating its sale.

And then Donald Trump was elected. And the dubious War on Drugs was back on.


We offer this refresher in light of the news this week that 130 countries agreed to sign a Trump-led declaration effectively renewing the war on drugs and its emphasis on confinement. (And 63 did not, including Germany and Spain). To the shock and dismay of many, Canada agreed to be a signatory – yes, the same Canada that has legalized marijuana and will see government-regulated cannabis stores open for business in less than three weeks.

It’s impossible to believe that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, a former pot smoker himself, thinks that a new war on drugs is a good idea. Moreover, to sign a decree co-sponsored by Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte makes it all the more bewildering and unseemly. Under orders from the Philippine President, death squads targeting drug dealers and addicts have been responsible for more than 20,000 extrajudicial killings. It’s one way to save on expensive incarceration, I suppose.

So why would Canada go along with this, coming as it did the same week the respected Global Commission on Drug Policy issued a report urging governments to tackle the drug problem through legalization and regulation? Because when you live next door to someone intent on disrupting the world order, realpolitik considerations trump virtually all other imperatives.

Until a new North American free-trade agreement is inked, Mr. Trudeau doesn’t need to give the U.S. President any more reason to become irritated and unreasonable. The fact is, the Prime Minister has factors to weigh that most other countries do not. Is it worth potentially inciting Mr. Trump by refusing to sign a document that is unlikely to have any discernible impact on this country? Or is it more important to take a principled stand, even if the economic fallout at the hands of an erratic political leader could be potentially devastating for Canadians? In the end, Mr. Trudeau decided it was in this country’s best interests to plug his nose and lend his name to a document he likely figures will sit and collect dust.

If we know anything about global calls to action such as this one around drugs, it’s that they are often nothing more than public-relations exercises. World leaders are often great at talking, less so at doing. There may be no document in recent times more important than the 2016 Paris climate accord. And yet, while the planet edges ever closer to a perilous abyss, the real work to meet the climate-pact targets isn’t getting done.


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Mr. Trump can start throwing more pot dealers in jail if he wants, if it makes him feel more powerful, but it will do nothing but exacerbate his country’s growing social problems. What the U.S. President does in his country, will never happen here. Instead, Canada is likely to continue allowing progressive drug treatment programs such as those we see in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside to gain a greater foothold across the country.

Sure, it would have been better if Canada didn’t sign such a wrong-headed, backward-thinking proclamation as the one Mr. Trudeau did this week. But sometimes there is a greater good to be considered.
 

DET—PDX

Active Member
This is all true concerning black market affairs. Check me if I’m wrong, but I researched and president Trump and several cabinent members support the legalization of cannabis. Legalization would effectively reduce the need for ‘pot dealers’ which is what I believe they’re after... along with the taxable money of course. I don’t think things are out of control just yet, and I don’t think you will see legalization without some sort of market restrictions, and yes there will have to be legislation and agreement among countries. I’m not saying it’s right to pursue jail time for pot dealers, but in an era where things must be regulated, when then man says it has to be controlled, it has to be controlled. Apparently anyone can’t be able to just sell their product personally without permits and minimum plant limits, fine. If we can’t beat them, we have to join them, at least cannabis will be widely accepted and controlled for quality, which is also an industry issue little talked about.
 

The Hippy

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This is all true concerning black market affairs. Check me if I’m wrong, but I researched and president Trump and several cabinent members support the legalization of cannabis. Legalization would effectively reduce the need for ‘pot dealers’ which is what I believe they’re after... along with the taxable money of course. I don’t think things are out of control just yet, and I don’t think you will see legalization without some sort of market restrictions, and yes there will have to be legislation and agreement among countries.
I wouldn't trust a thing trump says...even if it is good...wish we could but ........no way
I've never seen a bigger public liar...it's totally amazing to watch.
 

DET—PDX

Active Member
I wouldn't trust a thing trump says...even if it is good...wish we could but ........no way
I've never seen a bigger public liar...it's totally amazing to watch.
There’s no doubt, Trunp is a media mastermind. I don’t particularly like him, but credit where credit is due. I still find it hard to believe they are not interested in a multi billion dollar industry that is gaining weight each year, which could easily profit if launched legally and controlled. Who knows, time will tell. I can’t believe I’m talking about politics right now.
 

The Hippy

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There’s no doubt, Trunp is a media mastermind. I don’t particularly like him, but credit where credit is due. I still find it hard to believe they are not interested in a multi billion dollar industry that is gaining weight each year, which could easily profit if launched legally and controlled. Who knows, time will tell. I can’t believe I’m talking about politics right now.
I'm not sure if it brilliance or just dumb luck. If it's is brilliance......he doing a good job at disguising it as pure stupidity.
 

Egzoset

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Hummm...

TrudeauManiac Fake news debunking more fake news from USA while importing their worse socio-toxic laws into our own via 15 CDSA Liberal changes - so far!


Still pretending we need a "Cannabis Act" somehow, while truth is there's ZERO love in the "Légaleezation" of SuperPÉTeux. Zero spine, zero fairness, not even respect since the UNILATERAL TRANSFER of a PROVINCIAL COMPÉTENCE performed by Henri-Sévérin Béland in 1923, yet another brave bigot Liberal federalist...

Why? M'well simply because the Task Force report focussed on the needs of those suffering patients in need for some relief, taken hostage in exchange for a legal signature which now justifies sending legally vulnerable minors to prison, etc... Just as Raoul Dandurand would have wished when he got rewarded with a president chair at the League of Nations in 1925, but i'll spare you details about even more Liberal "coïncidences".

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Truth is there's ZERO progressist in Ottawa considering Trudeau & co. already had blood on their hands for 8 oz, 2 years ago:

Google Search: "La C.R.A.P." "Christian Gilbert" "Bony Jean-Pierre"

...never paid attention, not even after a French-speaking man was KILLED over 8 oz in Montréal-Nord/Québec...


Now it's quite too late to continue pretending YOU didn't know.
 
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VIANARCHRIS

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There’s no doubt, Trunp is a media mastermind. I don’t particularly like him, but credit where credit is due. I still find it hard to believe they are not interested in a multi billion dollar industry that is gaining weight each year, which could easily profit if launched legally and controlled. Who knows, time will tell. I can’t believe I’m talking about politics right now.
Trump will never legalize - he won't be there long enough if he wanted to. Healthcare is too hard for him (who knew it could be this difficult) so changing America's history of irrational phobias around the cannabis plant and hurting the pay-for-stay jails that are full of dangerous pot smokers is beyond the mental-midget's abilities.If Obama had had a majority I think you would already be legal. I don't see it ever coming from the Right.
 
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