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OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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ConMer710 said:
By raising the buckets were you trying to raise or lower the water temp? Right now my DWC is in the basement and the temp stays consistently at 67 F. I did wrap it in foil tape so that is reflecting a good amount of heat.
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Bucket raising was primarily a function of getting the plant sites above the reservoir for complete draining.
Water temps were an overlooked issue at the time.
Couldn't be happier than where I'm at now with the straight perlite for media. What little savings I was experiencing in not using media have been far outweighed by not needing to dump such high volumes of solution at nutrient change out.
I am also 100% certain the plants are noticeably more fragrant than when the roots were submerged in water 24/7 :hump:
 
pinner420

pinner420

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OneHitDone said:
Bucket raising was primarily a function of getting the plant sites above the reservoir for complete draining.
Water temps were an overlooked issue at the time.
Couldn't be happier than where I'm at now with the straight perlite for media. What little savings I was experiencing in not using media have been far outweighed by not needing to dump such high volumes of solution at nutrient change out.
I am also 100% certain the plants are noticeably more fragrant than when the roots were submerged in water 24/7 :hump:
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Exactly my findings.. Now we go off the deep end and start talking about grounding rods. Lol...
 
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ConMer710

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OneHitDone said:
Bucket raising was primarily a function of getting the plant sites above the reservoir for complete draining.
Water temps were an overlooked issue at the time.
Couldn't be happier than where I'm at now with the straight perlite for media. What little savings I was experiencing in not using media have been far outweighed by not needing to dump such high volumes of solution at nutrient change out.
I am also 100% certain the plants are noticeably more fragrant than when the roots were submerged in water 24/7 :hump:
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What exactly do you mean by not using media?
 
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ConMer710

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OneHitDone said:
Drip system with 5 gallon bucket full of perlite :hump:
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Thanks for the knowledge. I built my first DIY RDWC and its working but definitely will be upgrading next run. The flow isn't good enough since I thought I could use 1/2 poly tubing. Next time I'll either go with 2 in pvc or a full on drip system. I'm guessing there is less maintenance on the drip system since you only have to change 1 rez.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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ConMer710 said:
Thanks for the knowledge. I built my first DIY RDWC and its working but definitely will be upgrading next run. The flow isn't good enough since I thought I could use 1/2 poly tubing. Next time I'll either go with 2 in pvc or a full on drip system. I'm guessing there is less maintenance on the drip system since you only have to change 1 rez.
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I will drop this info here since I think you may find it helpful. Keep in mind I am a DWC / water hydro lover for over a decade with many many plant species and I have went to perlite as media.

These are typical DWC root zones at harvest..

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This is a root mass from top drip on Hydroton..

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Now this is a root system from a harvested Perlite plant... :hump:

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Now you tell me which looks like the healthier root environment??
I do also like coco too but not at this location. Dry out time between watering was just too long even with a healthy portion of perlite incorporated
 
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ConMer710

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OneHitDone said:
I will drop this info here since I think you may find it helpful. Keep in mind I am a DWC / water hydro lover for over a decade with many many plant species and I have went to perlite as media.

These are typical DWC root zones at harvest..

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This is a root mass from top drip on Hydroton..

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Now this is a root system from a harvested Perlite plant... :hump:

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Now you tell me which looks like the healthier root environment??
I do also like coco too but not at this location. Dry out time between watering was just too long even with a healthy portion of perlite incorporated
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Wow the difference is clear for sure. It might be the picture but it looks like the root mass on the pearlite is smaller.

Is it similar to dwc in the sense of nutrient levels, rez temp? Or is it more than just different media and delivery system? I have seen special nutrient mixes for media like coco but I know pearlite doesn't hold much water so it seems like it would be close to hydro.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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ConMer710 said:
Wow the difference is clear for sure. It might be the picture but it looks like the root mass on the pearlite is smaller.

Is it similar to dwc in the sense of nutrient levels, rez temp? Or is it more than just different media and delivery system? I have seen special nutrient mixes for media like coco but I know pearlite doesn't hold much water so it seems like it would be close to hydro.
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The Perlite root pic was a 1 gal so it was smaller.

Any nutrient that works in hydro works on perlite. It is inert. Hydro basically is anything that has no nutrients in the media and feeds the plants with the liquid solution.
Temps are a non issue with the perlite buckets.
Research "Bato Bucket" or "Dutch Pot". Those are the real Ag systems that "Hempy" is based on :peace:
 
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ConMer710

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Looks amazing. What was your reason for going vertical? Ceiling height? Its looks like you needed the extra height for the girls to stretch out. Any other advantages to vertical?

I want to add some vertical light to my grow with some qb boards. They are so thin they would be perfect for side lights in a confined area.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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ConMer710 said:
Looks amazing. What was your reason for going vertical? Ceiling height? Its looks like you needed the extra height for the girls to stretch out. Any other advantages to vertical?

I want to add some vertical light to my grow with some qb boards. They are so thin they would be perfect for side lights in a confined area.
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I can have a lot of plants but managing all those root zones just doesn't make sense to me. So, why not try to grow a smaller number of bigger almost outdoor sizes plants?? :hump:
Vertical lighting fits the bill for that approach and also matures a canopy with a much greater depth
I am at 750W per 5x5 with NO A/C so not sure how any system is really gonna outdo that on efficiency. Now to just fine tune my growing and start smashing yields :peace:
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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OneHitDone said:
I will drop this info here since I think you may find it helpful. Keep in mind I am a DWC / water hydro lover for over a decade with many many plant species and I have went to perlite as media.

These are typical DWC root zones at harvest..

View attachment 4209479 View attachment 4209480

This is a root mass from top drip on Hydroton..

View attachment 4209481

Now this is a root system from a harvested Perlite plant... :hump:

View attachment 4209478

Now you tell me which looks like the healthier root environment??
I do also like coco too but not at this location. Dry out time between watering was just too long even with a healthy portion of perlite incorporated
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Word
My new setup is Not going to be deep culture at all even though I've been a hydro guy for many moons...

My next setup is going to be a modified nft
For efficiency, ease, cost ....I think I can go on :)
 
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