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Philip-O

Philip-O

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I´ve asked this also on the Bodhi thread, but there is much insight here so I wanted to ask about your technique to keep clones when pheno hunting.

Ideally, I would like to take clones of all my seed plants until after I´ve sexed and culled the males, and keep the clones of the females until after their mothers have been tasted and cured for a bit. However, even in solo cups, that´s a lot of clones and space, so I wonder if any of you has had success keeping them on a ziplock on the fridge or something like that. I know I can take clones in flower, which would reduce the number of clones and time they should be kept, but it still takes some time until the bud is tried and I´ve limited success with cloning in flower. Storing a bunch of cuttings in the crisper would be so much easier... A second alternative I´ve though about is trying to keep them on germination trays, which have a lot of little holes on not so much space.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Philip-O said:
I´ve asked this also on the Bodhi thread, but there is much insight here so I wanted to ask about your technique to keep clones when pheno hunting.

Ideally, I would like to take clones of all my seed plants until after I´ve sexed and culled the males, and keep the clones of the females until after their mothers have been tasted and cured for a bit. However, even in solo cups, that´s a lot of clones and space, so I wonder if any of you has had success keeping them on a ziplock on the fridge or something like that. I know I can take clones in flower, which would reduce the number of clones and time they should be kept, but it still takes some time until the bud is tried and I´ve limited success with cloning in flower. Storing a bunch of cuttings in the crisper would be so much easier... A second alternative I´ve though about is trying to keep them on germination trays, which have a lot of little holes on not so much space.
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If you grow in dirt just harvest most of the plant and leave a few low buds.cut the root ball back and repot the plants in the same containers with new soil.put them under 24 hr light and they will reveg.once you taste test your keeper you basically have a new mom.take a few cuts off her once she gets some good five finger leaves going.otherwise there will always be to much ethelyn buildup in the plant to ever get back to 18/6
 
hillbill

hillbill

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Pollinated 2 Sleeskunks with a nice strong male Sleeskunk from DNA the other day and hit my Bodhi Space Monkey Indica leaner today. The Sleeskunks are quite different from each other in leaf and bud structure falling to Indica or Sativa respectively. The Indica pheno is making fat round buds in a hurry. Will see what happens.

Hoping remaining 2 fine looking ORGI F2s are girls Copper Chem f2 is 3 weeks in and finally flowering nicely and growing.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Philip-O said:
I´ve asked this also on the Bodhi thread, but there is much insight here so I wanted to ask about your technique to keep clones when pheno hunting.

Ideally, I would like to take clones of all my seed plants until after I´ve sexed and culled the males, and keep the clones of the females until after their mothers have been tasted and cured for a bit. However, even in solo cups, that´s a lot of clones and space, so I wonder if any of you has had success keeping them on a ziplock on the fridge or something like that. I know I can take clones in flower, which would reduce the number of clones and time they should be kept, but it still takes some time until the bud is tried and I´ve limited success with cloning in flower. Storing a bunch of cuttings in the crisper would be so much easier... A second alternative I´ve though about is trying to keep them on germination trays, which have a lot of little holes on not so much space.
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If you have any experience with agar and tissue culture you can do tissue culture. Kept in the fridge at a certain temp idr off the top of my head. But you can get anywhere from 250-1000 samples in a 12x12 box. You can order agar online. Lamens terms cut the growth tip place in agar. Store in fridge.

Edit: need to be kept at 34°
 
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whytewidow

whytewidow

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Heisengrow said:
If you grow in dirt just harvest most of the plant and leave a few low buds.cut the root ball back and repot the plants in the same containers with new soil.put them under 24 hr light and they will reveg.once you taste test your keeper you basically have a new mom.take a few cuts off her once she gets some good five finger leaves going.otherwise there will always be to much ethelyn buildup in the plant to ever get back to 18/6
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I always reveg under 18/6 they seem to root if its clone or reveg quicker for me under 18/6
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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whytewidow said:
I always reveg under 18/6 they seem to root if its clone or reveg quicker for me under 18/6
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I've had them actually flower under 18 6 if I'm taking cuts off flowering plants or they seem to not want to revert back.never an issue with new ones but old passed around clones seem to be the worse.once I get the cut from a 24 rooted it seems 18 is fine.i had one in 18/ 6 that just would not throw 5 finger.just all 3s and singles.had to go to 24 to get it right.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Heisengrow said:
I've had them actually flower under 18 6 if I'm taking cuts off flowering plants or they seem to not want to revert back.never an issue with new ones but old passed around clones seem to be the worse.once I get the cut from a 24 rooted it seems 18 is fine.i had one in 18/ 6 that just would not throw 5 finger.just all 3s and singles.had to go to 24 to get it right.
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My jamaican Pineapple Glue did that, threw singles for along time. But eventually it straightened out. But I took cuts before then and all the new growth on the cut from the reveg mom was normal.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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whytewidow said:
My jamaican Pineapple Glue did that, threw singles for along time. But eventually it straightened out. But I took cuts before then and all the new growth on the cut from the reveg mom was normal.
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Yeah once you take a 5 finger normal cut and root it everything seems good.ive put revegged plants under 24 until they start throwing normal leaves and than I'll put under 18 and bam they start flowering again.i think it has to do with so much flowering hormone built up in the whole plant causes them to wanna keep flowering.i had one I thought I lost.it just would not stop flowering.or i had one i thought was good and under 18 6.look at it a week later and like wtf.things stretching and trying to bud.
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Heisengrow said:
Yeah once you take a 5 finger normal cut and root it everything seems good.ive put revegged plants under 24 until they start throwing normal leaves and than I'll put under 18 and bam they start flowering again.i think it has to do with so much flowering hormone built up in the whole plant causes them to wanna keep flowering.i had one I thought I lost.it just would not stop flowering.or i had one i thought was good and under 18 6.look at it a week later and like wtf.things stretching and trying to bud.
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Yeah I have one of the clones of the star pupil x goji cross the purp pheno. I took them in flower. Took 6 cuts. 1 of them is still flowering. The others have stopped. Shes gonna be a frosty bitch. And have some beautiful color to her.

It's always a good thing when they have resin rails way early in flower. And have trichs om the fan leaf petioles.
Shes gonna make killer base in a cross. I mean goji is stable. And star pupil is about as stable as it gets. I think theres two phenos. It's been bred and selected. The same exact mother plant is used every time. And now I hit her with the massive male that a buddy found. Of Maui Wowie x(Purple Haze x Malawai) I bet there will some fire in these.

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boybelue

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whytewidow said:
If you have any experience with agar and tissue culture you can do tissue culture. Kept in the fridge at a certain temp idr off the top of my head. But you can get anywhere from 250-1000 samples in a 12x12 box. You can order agar online. Lamens terms cut the growth tip place in agar. Store in fridge.

Edit: need to be kept at 34°
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I'm interested in tissue culture, I know there's a lot to it, i actually bought a book on it a while back when I was having a hard time getting this one plant I have to root, I've nearly lost it so many times. Load the cloner up and only have one or two make it. Now I can't find the damn book! I'm loosing my memory!
 
SSGrower

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LOL Resin Rails!
whytewidow said:
Yeah I have one of the clones of the star pupil x goji cross the purp pheno. I took them in flower. Took 6 cuts. 1 of them is still flowering. The others have stopped. Shes gonna be a frosty bitch. And have some beautiful color to her.

It's always a good thing when they have resin rails way early in flower. And have trichs om the fan leaf petioles.
Shes gonna make killer base in a cross. I mean goji is stable. And star pupil is about as stable as it gets. I think theres two phenos. It's been bred and selected. The same exact mother plant is used every time. And now I hit her with the massive male that a buddy found. Of Maui Wowie x(Purple Haze x Malawai) I bet there will some fire in these.

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Day 63 of 12/12 from seed.
GMO x Swazee
Doughy smell?
If I were to pic a fave at this point it would be the one on the right in the pic below.
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This one.
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thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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doniawon said:
Jabberwocky x Mac
303x cap
Spec ops x Mac
303xcap
Blue steel x Mac. 4/10 mutated:hump: View attachment 4214697 View attachment 4214707
Exotic x cap
Sin mn og x Mac
Sincity x cap
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Dude those mutated blue steels look like my old super dope mutant pheno of blueberry fro dutch passion 2002! That was hands down one of the best buds I've ever smoked or grew in my life. Straight smuckers grape jelly flavor, white with resin and potent as fuck.

That plant was a fucking bitch to clone and grow. It'd take 2-3 weeks for clones to root and 2 months to veg a descent size plant and if flower room temps were over the 85 degree range she didn't frost out as good. I wish I would have know what I had back then but figured I could just buy another pack and find another...

Sorry long story but I'm interested as hell to see how those mutants do for you, might be something special if that is the blueberry's trait coming through. Cheers man and good luck with them.
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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doniawon

doniawon

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Dude those mutated blue steels look like my old super dope mutant pheno of blueberry fro dutch passion 2002! That was hands down one of the best buds I've ever smoked or grew in my life. Straight smuckers grape jelly flavor, white with resin and potent as fuck.

That plant was a fucking bitch to clone and grow. It'd take 2-3 weeks for clones to root and 2 months to veg a descent size plant and if flower room temps were over the 85 degree range she didn't frost out as good. I wish I would have know what I had back then but figured I could just buy another pack and find another...

Sorry long story but I'm interested as hell to see how those mutants do for you, might be something special if that is the blueberry's trait coming through. Cheers man and good luck with them.
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I felt the same way, was lucky enough to run DJ's bb n the mid 90's.
The cut of blue steel we got is insane. Blueberry to the max .if u had the real deal back then u know. Loud loud bb.. bs takes it a step further, great structure, big yeilds, super potent.
Very excited for bs x Mac.. they will b nice to see.
Have about 7 other Mac crosses to test next round.
Using a blue steel x Mac male, to hit sins white nightmare crossed to bodhi's ssdd.
Love chucking!!!
 
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