How is a seed feminized?
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freddythekruger
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it either comes from a hermie plant, guaranteeing a female (probably a hermie though).
or the mother gets treated with gibberellic acid.
or the mother gets treated with gibberellic acid.
HiGHLiFE28
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azmotodude
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having a female, then stressing it during flowering and turning it hermie will INCREASE the chances of the seeds being feminized, but will not guarntee a feminized seed.
freddythekruger
Well-Known Member
dead wrong. its genetics. there aren't any male genetics being introduced to the plant if its a hermie and it pollinates itself. it will therefore have ONLY female seeds (most likely hermie seeds though.)
azmotodude
New Member
Good job buddy... Do you consider a hermie a female? I guess if you do then it would be all females, but most people dont consider hermies, female, so good job...
freddythekruger
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dude, don't be a dick. hermies ARE female. males don't turn hermie. you just obviously don't know what you're talking about. so don't post until you learn a thing or two. dumbass.
azmotodude
New Member
Says the man trying not to be a dick? anyways... What I said does have truth to it... a Hermies seeds are NEVER Ideal to grow with... but are better then males (probably)
freddythekruger
Well-Known Member
finally you said something true. hermies aren't ideal. but you're still a dumbass for not thinking they're females. stop spreading misinformation.
azmotodude
New Member
mmm... all im saying is... would you smoke a hermie?
freddythekruger
Well-Known Member
wouldn't be my first choice, but yeah if its all i had. you've never had seeded brick mids before? chances are decent that you've smoked a hermie too. hermies are as potent as merch. are you mistaking hermie for male again?
hell yeah id smoke a hermie, some of the best weed ive ever smoked had seeds and hermie seeds will be 99% fems with a strict 12/12 light regimen or you can trick the light cycle and get more hermies. where do you think all the breeders get feminised seeds from? if you have ever bought fem seeds it was prolly from a hermie.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
ok, but the original question is, how do seedbanks get their feminized seeds? do you guys know, cuz im kinda curious myself. I remember someone tellin me a while back, but i forgot how. I wanna know how so i can do it myself once i get farmiliar enough with growing to where i wana start fucking with genetics.
If you guys dont know, i can email attitude and theyll hit me back pretty fast with an answer. theyre good about responding to emails with questions in them unrelated to an order.
If you guys dont know, i can email attitude and theyll hit me back pretty fast with an answer. theyre good about responding to emails with questions in them unrelated to an order.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
here we go, ill drop you guys the definitive explanation from our beloved stinky hippie breedin buddy, SOMA. Hes fuckin awesome, i love this guy. Hes famous for his NY Diesel, its the fuckin shit, came in 2nd place i believe in last years Cannabis Cup.
Feminizing Seeds by Soma
Published at 2006-08-17 in Growing tips
Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Article by Soma
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can�t treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method �Rodelization� after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male �bananas�. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.
To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them �Emergency Devices� because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.
For the second phase you need to already have a crop that�s already 2 � weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you�re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: �Drop seeds not bombs�.
Feminizing Seeds by Soma
Published at 2006-08-17 in Growing tips
Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Article by Soma
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can�t treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method �Rodelization� after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male �bananas�. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.
To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them �Emergency Devices� because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.
For the second phase you need to already have a crop that�s already 2 � weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you�re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: �Drop seeds not bombs�.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
see what i mean? the dude is fuckin COOL, lol. n this method aint the same way i heard to do it, but its fuckin cool, and its EASY!!! thats pretty fuckin cool man, n its something that ill defnitley try out one of these days once i have growing down n i wanna progress my knowledge.
In lamens terms "tricking the light cycle" to cause stress during flowering period will create a hermie that will pollinate itself and/or female plants around it making 99.9% female seeds.
Is that not what i said?
In other words "tricking the light cycle" to cause a female to become hermie as a result you get 99.9% female seeds.
is that not what i said?
If you wanna get more detailed then after you have begun a 12/12 cycle and you notice pre flowers (pistols) you start giving a 12/12-18/6-12/12 light cycle after about 6-9 days of this you go back to a 12/12 cycle and about once a week you interupt the dark cycle with a couple hours of light. With some luck youll get a hermie let it pollinate but make dam sure there are no males in the room!
