Can this be a nutrient problem? or is in nothing to worry about

Labrador weed

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Hello I am very new this is 2nd post i’m hoping that this is the place for me to post something being as much of a newbie as I am anywho i’m wondering if anyone is seeing an issue with these plans and if this could be a nitrogen problem or something to do with to much calcium or possibly something to do with too much light as well.
I’m in fox farms soil happy frog ocean Forrest 50/50 some of the tips are a little teeny bit pale Almost exclusively on the new growth but you can see some on some lower leaves to but barely not many.
I added a supplemental LED also fed small dose bio weed general organics, big bloom half dose, and very small dose of calcium magnesium i’m in well water ppm‘s were at 400 I don’t know what kind of ppm tester I have unfortunately also pH 6.3 or 6.4 in and about the same out. If that’s not enough information let me know thank you
 

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goatlicker

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Hello I am very new this is 2nd post i’m hoping that this is the place for me to post something being as much of a newbie as I am anywho i’m wondering if anyone is seeing an issue with these plans and if this could be a nitrogen problem or something to do with to much calcium or possibly something to do with too much light as well.
I’m in fox farms soil happy frog ocean Forrest 50/50 some of the tips are a little teeny bit pale Almost exclusively on the new growth but you can see some on some lower leaves to but barely not many.
I added a supplemental LED also fed small dose bio weed general organics, big bloom half dose, and very small dose of calcium magnesium i’m in well water ppm‘s were at 400 I don’t know what kind of ppm tester I have unfortunately also pH 6.3 or 6.4 in and about the same out. If that’s not enough information let me know thank you
Looks like you have a little bit of nute burn.
Are you letting them dry out before you water them? Maybe a little over watered.
 

Labrador weed

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Looks like you have a little bit of nute burn.
Are you letting them dry out before you water them? Maybe a little over watered.
Thank you for quick response. I have been letting them Dry out quite a bit I think. I can put about three maybe 4 inches of a finger into dry soil until reaching some moist before I water. I think your right about nutrients but I got a new LED light to add some extra light And right around then is when I started seeing the pale leaf tips So I figured it was that I’ve been having a lot of trouble figuring it out what it is. some of them look quite healthy where is some of the others look a little worse like this one is healthy I think
 

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goatlicker

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Thank you for quick response. I have been letting them Dry out quite a bit I think. I can put about three maybe 4 inches of a finger into dry soil until reaching some moist before I water. I think your right about nutrients but I got a new LED light to add some extra light And right around then is when I started seeing the pale leaf tips So I figured it was that I’ve been having a lot of trouble figuring it out what it is. some of them look quite healthy where is some of the others look a little worse like this one is healthy I think
No worries.
I wouldn't worry about new growth being light green.. They darken up as they get bigger.
I use a probe as the bottom half of your soil might be staying wet.. Have you transplanted up from seed ?
Your roots might not be filling out your pot possibly and bottom half or outer edges of the pot staying wet if you've recently transplanted. Also getting to know how heavy it is dry is good indication on when to water.

They look good, just keep doing what your doing and watch the watering to make sure they have a wet dry cycle.

Edit: could be a wee bit of iron deficiency but i'd let them be and see if they darken up.
Keep an eye on lower leaves, if they start going pale or light green they need nitrogen.
 

Labrador weed

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No worries.
I wouldn't worry about new growth being light green.. They darken up as they get bigger.
I use a probe as the bottom half of your soil might be staying wet.. Have you transplanted up from seed ?
Your roots might not be filling out your pot possibly and bottom half or outer edges of the pot staying wet if you've recently transplanted. Also getting to know how heavy it is dry is good indication on when to water.

They look good, just keep doing what your doing and watch the watering to make sure they have a wet dry cycle.
Thank you your words sound beautiful in my head. i’ve been kind of obsessing over them and I’m trying to not do that because every time I close my eyes I get a flash of my plants. I transplanted from solo cups that was just about at two weeks old into 3 gallon smart pots i’ve been letting them get pretty dry but at the same time I don’t know what that bottom half of soil is like. I will definitely look into getting one of those things you were talking about I actually forgot about them. Overall I think he may be right about the overwatering because they haven’t all been watered at exactly the same amount at the same time I’ve had some fluctuation so some may be getting a little more than others I’ll look into getting one of those things and make sure it’s good and dry before I give it any water Thanks.
One other thing I want to ask is do you think I would be OK moving the lights closer because I move him away a good bit just to make sure I wasn’t causing any extra stress do you think I could focus on driving those in a little bit more should I wait?
 

Labrador weed

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No worries.
I wouldn't worry about new growth being light green.. They darken up as they get bigger.
I use a probe as the bottom half of your soil might be staying wet.. Have you transplanted up from seed ?
Your roots might not be filling out your pot possibly and bottom half or outer edges of the pot staying wet if you've recently transplanted. Also getting to know how heavy it is dry is good indication on when to water.

They look good, just keep doing what your doing and watch the watering to make sure they have a wet dry cycle.

Edit: could be a wee bit of iron deficiency but i'd let them be and see if they darken up.
Keep an eye on lower leaves, if they start going pale or light green they need nitrogen.
Also if you don’t mind could you look at this light and tell me if this would be a good supplemental late for an HPS in a 4 x 4 tent I’m thinking about getting two.
it’s called (niello cob led 600 watt amazon)
I tried posting on a new thread but I am new and it won’t let me Sorry if I’m being a hassle thanks for your help
 

goatlicker

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Thank you your words sound beautiful in my head. i’ve been kind of obsessing over them and I’m trying to not do that because every time I close my eyes I get a flash of my plants. I transplanted from solo cups that was just about at two weeks old into 3 gallon smart pots i’ve been letting them get pretty dry but at the same time I don’t know what that bottom half of soil is like. I will definitely look into getting one of those things you were talking about I actually forgot about them. Overall I think he may be right about the overwatering because they haven’t all been watered at exactly the same amount at the same time I’ve had some fluctuation so some may be getting a little more than others I’ll look into getting one of those things and make sure it’s good and dry before I give it any water Thanks.
One other thing I want to ask is do you think I would be OK moving the lights closer because I move him away a good bit just to make sure I wasn’t causing any extra stress do you think I could focus on driving those in a little bit more should I wait?
No problems, i know as a newbie my most common problem was "over loving" the plant and when i seen any sign of stress or leaves wilting i watered or give nutrients as i didn't know any better.
They're a really strong plant and can live in some nasty conditions.
Your plants look absolute fine and i wouldn't worry unless something drastic went wrong, it takes time to realise what they need and when.
As to the probe you don't need to have one but i do as i scrog and can't lift my pots up so it's hard to me to tell apart from sticking my finger in. Even getting a empty pot the same size and filling it with dry soil and comparing for a while till you get used to it is ideal.
I'm not saying you're over watering but that can cause leaf curling down and heavy looking leaves.


Also if you don’t mind could you look at this light and tell me if this would be a good supplemental late for an HPS in a 4 x 4 tent I’m thinking about getting two.
it’s called (niello cob led 600 watt amazon)
I tried posting on a new thread but I am new and it won’t let me Sorry if I’m being a hassle thanks for your help
Sorry i'm not much help with LED's these days, i have used a Area 51 led before but these days they're so much more advanced.
I currently use a 400w MH and HPS.
What wattage is your light currently? And is it HPS?
 

Labrador weed

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No problems, i know as a newbie my most common problem was "over loving" the plant and when i seen any sign of stress or leaves wilting i watered or give nutrients as i didn't know any better.
They're a really strong plant and can live in some nasty conditions.
Your plants look absolute fine and i wouldn't worry unless something drastic went wrong, it takes time to realise what they need and when.
As to the probe you don't need to have one but i do as i scrog and can't lift my pots up so it's hard to me to tell apart from sticking my finger in. Even getting a empty pot the same size and filling it with dry soil and comparing for a while till you get used to it is ideal.
I'm not saying you're over watering but that can cause leaf curling down and heavy looking leaves.




Sorry i'm not much help with LED's these days, i have used a Area 51 led before but these days they're so much more advanced.
I currently use a 400w MH and HPS.
What wattage is your light currently? And is it HPS?
It’s a 400 watt. thanks for all the help I can find some answers somewhere
you have given me plenty of help thanks
 

goatlicker

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It’s a 400 watt. thanks for all the help I can find some answers somewhere
you have given me plenty of help thanks
400w in 4x4 is pushing it but would probably be fine..
If anything i'd upgrade to a 600w if you don't have heat issues, would be better than LED i'd think.
I run 400w in 1.5x3, they cover 3.5x3.5 easily enough.
 
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