Led strip Opinions pls

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Gary77

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Ive found a led strip i like but can guys and girls with more knowledge give me there opinion. And also what drivers will work to run about 10 of them .

Just realised i cant post a link because im new here
 
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Gary77

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Hope this works

Technical specifications
unit value
efficiency A ++
light color warm white
housing Color White
Beam 120 °
height 2.5mm
width 10.0mm
length 499.9mm

unit minute Type. Max.
lumen 1326lm 5416lm 9493lm
PPF 18.389μMol / s 75.156μMol / s 132.047μMol / s
color temperature 3500K
tension 18.62V 19.60V 20.21V
electricity 350mA 1500mA 2800mA
 
eyderbuddy

eyderbuddy

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Alright, what's the model?

Well, it seems like it's just a generic 20V model... But i have no way to know how high it can go in terms of Amps * Volts. It could be a 10W strip or a 50W strip for all i know
 
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Gary77

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Thats all the info on the website , best i can do for now

50cm aluminum strip with 98x Samsung LM301B LEDs 3500k

Technical specifications
unit. value
efficiency A ++
light color warm white
housing Color. White
Beam 120 °
height 2.5mm
width 10.0mm
length 499.9mm

unit minute. Type. Max.
lumen 1326lm 5416lm 9493lm
PPF 18.389μMol / s
75.156μMol / s
132.047μMol / s
color temperature. 3500K
tension 18.62V 19.60V 20.21V
electricity 350mA 1500mA
2800mA

electricity tension power
350 mA 18.62V . 6.517 W
700 mA 19.01 v.13,307W
1500 mA 19,60 v.29,400 W
2000 mA 19,88 v 39.760 W
2800 mA 20.21 v 56.588 W
electricity lumen Lumen / W
350 mA 1326 lm 203 lm / W
700 mA 2620 lm 196 lm / W
1500 mA 5416 lm 184 lm / W
2000 mA 7109 lm 178 lm / W
2800 mA 9493 lm 167 lm / W

electricity micromoles / s micromoles / joule

350 mA 18.389 2.82
700 mA 36.344 2.73
1500 mA 75.156 2.55
2000 mA 98.659 2.48
2800 mA 132.047 2.33
 
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eyderbuddy

eyderbuddy

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Gary77 said:
Ive found a led strip i like but can guys and girls with more knowledge give me there opinion. And also what drivers will work to run about 10 of them .

Just realised i cant post a link because im new here
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Whats your grow space area?
How many watts per strip are you thinking of?
 
eyderbuddy

eyderbuddy

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280 to 300 watts should be more than enough...

I don't know enough about the cooling efficiency of those strips, but i suppose they could do 20-25 watts (1-1.25 amp x 20 volt) without an actual heatsink... That remains to be seen though.. If you want to do 300 Watts with 10 strips, that's 30W per strip.

So you'd need a driver that can output constant 20v and at least 15 amps of constant current. I Don't know a driver like that though...

But a cheap alternative is that you can get two Meanwells LRS-150-36, pair them up in series (the strips), and run 6 strips per driver (3 sets of 2 strips). You'd end up with a total of 12 strips and 2 separate lights.
 
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Gary77

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But a cheap alternative is that you can get two Meanwells LRS-150-36, pair them up in series, and run 6 strips per driver (3 sets of 2 strips). You'd end up with a total of 12 strips and 2 separate lights.

I'll have a look into that driver . How many watts do you think the lights would put out and how many amps would each strip get ?

Another thought , there are 98 lm301b on a strip . On a quantum board there are 288 (i think) . Does that mean 3 of these strrips is a little better than a quantum board . My only thought is the bin codes might be shit.

I can get heatsinks that the strips fit to .
 
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Gary77

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Does the 4300ma get devided by the number of strips its running ? And then looking at the table i can tell what watts its producing .

For example .
4300ma split between two strips would be 2150ma each and so around 40 watts per strip ? Or split over 4 strips making 1075ma and 21watts from each strip .
 
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1212ham

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Gary77 said:
Hope this works

Technical specifications
unit value
efficiency A ++
light color warm white
housing Color White
Beam 120 °
height 2.5mm
width 10.0mm
length 499.9mm

unit minute Type. Max.
lumen 1326lm 5416lm 9493lm
PPF 18.389μMol / s 75.156μMol / s 132.047μMol / s
color temperature 3500K
tension 18.62V 19.60V 20.21V
electricity 350mA 1500mA 2800mA
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Quite interesting, LM301B are top shelf diodes! You should post in the LED section. I don't recognize those strips at all, strange dimensions. Need more info. Price?
 
eyderbuddy

eyderbuddy

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If heatsinks aren't the problem. Then do your thing man.

Gary77 said:
Does the 4300ma get devided by the number of strips its running ? And then looking at the table i can tell what watts its producing .

For example .
4300ma split between two strips would be 2150ma each and so around 40 watts per strip ? Or split over 4 strips making 1075ma and 21watts from each strip .
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If they're connected in parallel, the current gets divided between each strip.

And yes, you're correct in your calculations. This only happens if they're all connected in parallel though.

https://sites.google.com/site/growboxguy/lights/led-strips
 
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Gary77

Member
1212ham said:
Quite interesting, LM301B are top shelf diodes! You should post in the LED section. I don't recognize those strips at all, strange dimensions. Need more info. Price?
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Ive spent a week watching you tube videos and i decided the lm301b is the way to go , so i started trying to find the best deal . The only place i found in the uk selling them is diyleduk ,selling quantum board with heatsink and driver for £170.
Thats 288 lm301b . I found the strips on a German website . 98 x lm301b for £13 .

If i get one more like i can post a link
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Post a link Gary.
DIYled also sells strip builds, using H _influx strips that have Lm301b and the strips seperatly, you can also find Q series strips which use 301b,
You will have to check out ledgardener.com for part numbers.
What price can you get the LRS drivers?
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
Gary77 said:
But a cheap alternative is that you can get two Meanwells LRS-150-36, pair them up in series, and run 6 strips per driver (3 sets of 2 strips). You'd end up with a total of 12 strips and 2 separate lights.

I'll have a look into that driver . How many watts do you think the lights would put out and how many amps would each strip get ?

Another thought , there are 98 lm301b on a strip . On a quantum board there are 288 (i think) . Does that mean 3 of these strrips is a little better than a quantum board . My only thought is the bin codes might be shit.

I can get heatsinks that the strips fit to .
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I might be wrong but I think the strips only use top bin diodes. @Randomblame would know for sure.
Then again that might only be the case for sellers like digikey ect
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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coreywebster said:
I might be wrong but I think the strips only use top bin diodes. @Randomblame would know for sure.
Then again that might only be the case for sellers like digikey ect
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Hey, Corey!
Yeah, with F-strips it was the exact same S6/A1 bin. With Q-series one should get the same LM301b like on QBv2 but with the H-influx I'm not sure. They maybe use only the 2nd best flux bin on H-influx. There are still the same mistakes in the calculator for 3000, 3500 and 4000°k LM301b's and therefor its hard to say. Q-series 2ft strips are for sure top bin but have only half that much diodes(40). You need twice as much strips compared to H-influx L06 strips(88) but they also cost only half that much. So end price is a wash. And L06 would still have 8 diodes more, so even with a lower bin efficiency could be almost the same. Its realy hard to say which one would be better.
In doubt, I would take those who cause less wiring effort.

Samsung horti strips are also available soon. Its basically an H-influx double row but with the new LM301h and a 3rd row of deepreds. One could mix them 1:1 with warmwhite L09 H-influx strips (same dimensions) to get a more indoor siutable spectrum. That would work pretty well and you could reach efficiency levels of +2,6μMol/J easily.
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

Well-Known Member
Gary77 said:
Thats all the info on the website , best i can do for now

50cm aluminum strip with 98x Samsung LM301B LEDs 3500k

Technical specifications
unit. value
efficiency A ++
light color warm white
housing Color. White
Beam 120 °
height 2.5mm
width 10.0mm
length 499.9mm

unit minute. Type. Max.
lumen 1326lm 5416lm 9493lm
PPF 18.389μMol / s
75.156μMol / s
132.047μMol / s
color temperature. 3500K
tension 18.62V 19.60V 20.21V
electricity 350mA 1500mA
2800mA

electricity tension power
350 mA 18.62V . 6.517 W
700 mA 19.01 v.13,307W
1500 mA 19,60 v.29,400 W
2000 mA 19,88 v 39.760 W
2800 mA 20.21 v 56.588 W
electricity lumen Lumen / W
350 mA 1326 lm 203 lm / W
700 mA 2620 lm 196 lm / W
1500 mA 5416 lm 184 lm / W
2000 mA 7109 lm 178 lm / W
2800 mA 9493 lm 167 lm / W

electricity micromoles / s micromoles / joule

350 mA 18.389 2.82
700 mA 36.344 2.73
1500 mA 75.156 2.55
2000 mA 98.659 2.48
2800 mA 132.047 2.33
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Pretty nice strips. 10 more diodes compared to H-influx L06 and they cost less. So winner-winner chicken dinner. Get them, mount them one an alu sheet and fire them up. Each 20v meanwell driver would work for parallel connections. 1050mA (~20w) seems the sweet spot(190lm/w). 12 strips in parallel and an HLG-240H-20(12,5A) would work and each strip would run with ~1040-1050mA. 190lm/w means ~2,65μMol/J. Max. would be ~280w probably.

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And its the highest flux and the lower voltage bin available. Same like they use on their Zeusboards. As soon as LM301h is widely available they will get an update.
 
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Gary77

Member
Thanks for all the info .id like to understand more about how the drivers work . Is that hlg 240h the thing to use and why ? . Is parallel wiring the way to go to . I had been thinking wiring in series would be easier and simpler . But i couldnt work out what driver to get and how many id need.
 
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