Flood table missed feeding! Help

[PoopieBuds]

I am running a flood table with recirculating flow and had missed a feeding on both tables due to human error. Both tables are in flower, one table is 2 weeks ahead of the other. Will plants recover? 2 days now and the leaves are still droopy on some but the other leaves are folding in and curling, is that normal? I'll post pics if needed. Advice or any info helps!

 

[nurrgle]

You might be in trouble, I have missed a feeding here and there but never two and never not had everything bounce back.

I’d hit them with straight water and cross my fingers.

 

[PoopieBuds]

You might be in trouble, I have missed a feeding here and there but never two and never not had everything bounce back.

I’d hit them with straight water and cross my fingers.

I only missed the one feeding but its been two days now and the stems have perked back up by the fan leaves are still dropping on the that are still droopy. The ones that have perked up, the fan leaves are curling inwards and clawing and I wasnt sure if that was normal after they've been severely dehydrated. Also if I give them a flush, should it be PH'ed water??

 

[nurrgle]

Did you over water them after you realized you missed the cycles? Also are you in Rockwool?

Use ph’d water but don’t change your schedule you can overwater them that way.

I would guess they are stressed and coming back from the shock. Hopefully in a week everything is better. You defiantly impacted the outcome of your harvest though. Flood tables are high risk high reward for sure.

 

[PoopieBuds]

Did you over water them after you realized you missed the cycles? Also are you in Rockwool?

Use ph’d water but don’t change your schedule you can overwater them that way.

I would guess they are stressed and coming back from the shock. Hopefully in a week everything is better. You defiantly impacted the outcome of your harvest though. Flood tables are high rush high reward for sure.

Yeah its rock wool and I did kinda hit them with a heavy feeding immediately....I have a dual feeding for the tables and they just missed the one feeding, but the impact was extremely detrimental and this is the first time out of my 8ish grows this has happened. Will the fan leaves ever return to normal or are they pretty shot now as well??

 

[PoopieBuds]

Did you over water them after you realized you missed the cycles? Also are you in Rockwool?

Use ph’d water but don’t change your schedule you can overwater them that way.

I would guess they are stressed and coming back from the shock. Hopefully in a week everything is better. You defiantly impacted the outcome of your harvest though. Flood tables are high risk high reward for sure.

Also how long should I give them straight water for?? Just one feeding??

 

[NanoGadget]

Damaged leaves will stay damaged. If they are just droopy they may perk up if you can get everything in order, but anything thats faded, crispy or otherwise damaged will remain as they are.

 

[PoopieBuds]

Damaged leaves will stay damaged. If they are just droopy they may perk up if you can get everything in order, but anything thats faded, crispy or otherwise damaged will remain as they are.

Damn. Well I appreciate the knowledge and info. I may reply later if i have any further questions. Thank you!

 

[NanoGadget]

To clarify.... clawing, cupping, drooping and twisting will tend to revert to normal once you get everything back to optimal, but fading, chlorosis, crispy etc will not recover. Pics would help.

Losing a bunch of fan leaves always sucks, but if you have enough leaves left on the colas and you can get your watering/feeding back to normal you can probably limp through the rest of flower. How many weeks in are you?

 

[PoopieBuds]

To clarify.... clawing, cupping, drooping and twisting will tend to revert to normal once you get everything back to optimal, but fading, chlorosis, crispy etc will not recover. Pics would help. I'll get some pics up later. I'm running LEDs, 2 600ws and 1 300w. I bleach burned one of the buds in the 6week table and I dont think she will pull through since she was on her last straw from what I gathered. But yes, i will post pics tonight.

Losing a bunch of fan leaves always sucks, but if you have enough leaves left on the colas and you can get your watering/feeding back to normal you can probably limp through the rest of flower. How many weeks in are you?

Week 4 for one table and week 6 for the other. The week six table is getting close to harvest since the trics are now just starting to milk over and the other table just finished its stretching week.

 

[PoopieBuds]

To clarify.... clawing, cupping, drooping and twisting will tend to revert to normal once you get everything back to optimal, but fading, chlorosis, crispy etc will not recover. Pics would help.

Losing a bunch of fan leaves always sucks, but if you have enough leaves left on the colas and you can get your watering/feeding back to normal you can probably limp through the rest of flower. How many weeks in are you?

I'm also running LEDs. 2 600w's and 1 300w. I bleach burned one of the ladies on the 6 week table so I'm thinking she is gone since she was pretty much just holding on. Tonight I will post pics when the lights kick on though.

 

[PoopieBuds]

These are just now...how screwed am I?? Some look like they are perking up but very slowly. I just did a PH water flush on them as well.

 

[xtsho]

Oh man that sucks. The problem is that in hydro if those roots dry out completely for too long they die. Did the rockwool get completely dry? What do the roots look like? Is there anything alive poking out the bottom of that rockwool? All you can do is get them back on the watering schedule and hope for the best. I'd only go 1/4 strength with the nutes for awhile.

Good luck.

 

[PoopieBuds]

Oh man that sucks. The problem is that in hydro if those roots dry out completely for too long they die. Did the rockwool get completely dry? What do the roots look like? Is there anything alive poking out the bottom of that rockwool? All you can do is get them back on the watering schedule and hope for the best. I'd only go 1/4 strength with the nutes for awhile.

Good luck.

I'm sure they weren't completely dry, just they were super wilted and lifeless...I just flushed them with the ph'ed water but since the table with 5 on them are probably a week or so away from harvest, it just obliterated them and the table with the 4 were just finishing their 3rd week...I'm quite certain they weren't dead since the kolas have perked up but the fan leaves are still crappy and wilt looking...will the fan leaves get better or will they look like crap the entire time?

 

[70's natureboy]

Where are the roots? Those plants are pretty tall not to have roots. I used to use rockwool but rocks are much more forgiving. Your plants are definitely stressed and will be lucky to give you half a crop. My stretchy sativas have roots all tangled together by the time they are 12" tall. I don't understand 12" tall plants with no roots.

 

[NanoGadget]

Where are the roots? Those plants are pretty tall not to have roots

Holy. Shit. How did i not notice the lack of root mass? Good eyes and a good question!

 

[PoopieBuds]

Holy. Shit. How did i not notice the lack of root mass? Good eyes and a good question!

When I transplant in to flower, I set the rock wool on a cotton badding to let the roots attach to it. Plus then it traps more moisture and typically keeps the roots a bit more wet over longer periods.

 

[NanoGadget]

When I transplant in to flower, I set the rock wool on a cotton badding to let the roots attach to it. Plus then it traps more moisture and typically keeps the roots a bit more wet over longer periods.

What i was trying to get at was that normally when i see somebody run NFT or any kind of flood tables I'm used to seeing a big carpet of roots in the bottom of the tray. Like this...

*not my photo

 

[PoopieBuds]

It looks like they have a foam cover over the the tops of the cubes. I was using the white reflective to cover the cubes for awhile, maybe ill have to give that a try again to get my roots to explode a bit more...

 

[PoopieBuds]

What i was trying to get at was that normally when i see somebody run NFT or any kind of flood tables I'm used to seeing a big carpet of roots in the bottom of the tray. Like this...View attachment 4244032

*not my photo

So I know this is a fairly stupid question and I should know better, but in regards to the roots, is it better to have them get big as hell rather then small and confined? I haven't had any issues with the way I've grown, minus the missed feeding, but would it be more beneficial for them to be covered and to travel??