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Drumking15

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Ok background
3 strains memphisto sodk, chemdog, fantasmo
Planted in soil 3 gal smart pots.
Watered every 3 days with just ph'd water
Soil was amended with 30% more perlite and ffof on bottom band ffhf on top.

4* 288 QBs running at 300wt draw currently
Temps 80 day 72 night with humidity from 40-65.

On one sodk last week saw some yellow leafs and some blackening of the leaves. Looked like early K deficiency.

pH water has been 6.3-6.5 with runoff around 6.1-6.4
Ppms of runoff were around 6-1000pm to start and only have decrease in the last week with most now around 5-600.

I figured I give them a light nutes and see if anything improved. Gave 10ml advance sensi grow 2 part in 5 gal. About half the recommended dossage for one week plants. The last two waterings 3 & 6 days ago gave these nutes.

Pictures are from today. The worst plant is the sodk which showed signs last week. The other two are Newely developed.

I'm thinking I didn't give them enough nutes?

Thinking I'm going without needn tonight and a dose of Cal mag and see if that helps.

Any advice. Thanks for all your help

http://imgur.com/gallery/D0nuZBN
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Drumking15 said:
Ok background
3 strains memphisto sodk, chemdog, fantasmo
Planted in soil 3 gal smart pots.
Watered every 3 days with just ph'd water
Soil was amended with 30% more perlite and ffof on bottom band ffhf on top.

4* 288 QBs running at 300wt draw currently
Temps 80 day 72 night with humidity from 40-65.

On one sodk last week saw some yellow leafs and some blackening of the leaves. Looked like early K deficiency.

pH water has been 6.3-6.5 with runoff around 6.1-6.4
Ppms of runoff were around 6-1000pm to start and only have decrease in the last week with most now around 5-600.

I figured I give them a light nutes and see if anything improved. Gave 10ml advance sensi grow 2 part in 5 gal. About half the recommended dossage for one week plants. The last two waterings 3 & 6 days ago gave these nutes.

Pictures are from today. The worst plant is the sodk which showed signs last week. The other two are Newely developed.

I'm thinking I didn't give them enough nutes?

Thinking I'm going without needn tonight and a dose of Cal mag and see if that helps.

Any advice. Thanks for all your help

http://imgur.com/gallery/D0nuZBN
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Looks like P to me and add microbes to the feed.
 
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Drumking15

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Bernie420 said:
Looks like P to me and add microbes to the feed.
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So should I skip Cal mag and feed nutes again tonight with watering?

Also is 250ppm where I want to be? If I put in the full recommended that will be nearly 50ml probably be like 1200ppm.

Original runoff from start was near 1000ppm and in the past 4 weeks giving no nutes stayed pretty consistent until a week ago I've started to see drops in ppm off the runoff.
 
Skoal

Skoal

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Watering every 3 days seems a little too low for those size girls in my opinion. Or they are not drinking enough. Also you need to fertilize. Those leaves are going yellow way too early.
 
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Drumking15

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Skoal said:
Watering every 3 days seems a little too low for those size girls in my opinion. Or they are not drinking enough. Also you need to fertilize. Those leaves are going yellow way too early.
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Watering till runoff fills the saucers, then dumping then out.

I wait till pots are light two days they are still a bit wet ideally 2.5 days is perfect but I'm not home during day hours.

Usually need about 7-8gal to water my 6 plants
 
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Drumking15

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Skoal said:
Watering every 3 days seems a little too low for those size girls in my opinion. Or they are not drinking enough. Also you need to fertilize. Those leaves are going yellow way too early.
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And how 1) do I determine how much ppm at week 4/12 do I need (I've seen anywhere from 200-1000 over the website)

2) how do I get there with nutes still present (I'm assuming this is the ppm I'm seeing in runoff)
 
Skoal

Skoal

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I would start small and keep adding. If you do a feed of 200ppm one day and not enough then do a feed of 200ppm the next day. Two days in a row. You won’t fry your plants. And you won’t kill them for lack of nutes. Less is more. All plants are diffeeent. You have to look st your plants and how they react. Hence why you start low.
 
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Drumking15

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Ok so I've feed the last two waterings at 250ppm. Do I skip nutes and just water... Or continue at 250...or go up a tad to say 350-400 and see if any improvements come.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Drumking15 said:
So should I skip Cal mag and feed nutes again tonight with watering?

Also is 250ppm where I want to be? If I put in the full recommended that will be nearly 50ml probably be like 1200ppm.

Original runoff from start was near 1000ppm and in the past 4 weeks giving no nutes stayed pretty consistent until a week ago I've started to see drops in ppm off the runoff.
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Yes add the cal mag but just epsom salt might be better to address a mag issue. Plants look like it can handle a 250 ppm sounds legit.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Drumking15 said:
Are any of these good microbes?

https://www.microbelifehydro.com/

I have a trial set the guy from the hydro shop gave me but I've got no clue what or how to use them.
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I dont see the product that you are talking about instead of the website can you name which product it is or post pic of front and back of product.

I think the company is called microbe life but I didnt see that they sell a microbe product.
 
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Drumking15

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Bernie420 said:
I dont see the product that you are talking about instead of the website can you name which product it is or post pic of front and back of product.

I think the company is called microbe life but I didnt see that they sell a microbe product.
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I have one of everything on that main page.

Basically a sampler of them. I'll take a picture in the morning.


Ok just finished water/feed gave them a 400ppm feed. 350 nutes 50 calmag. We'll see how they respond.
 
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Drumking15

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Also forgot to mention after tonight's feed all runoffs were pretty even around 900s back to where I saw them in the very beginning before the plants grew at all
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Drumking15 said:
https://www.microbelifehydro.com/product/nourish-l/

https://www.microbelifehydro.com/product/photosynthesis-plus/
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Ok i watched both videos. I didnt see or they didnt say the application rate on the nourish-l. Can you take 1 gal and add the nourish -l at the highest application rate and add the photo plus one at 20ml mix well and then water into each plant equally tonight or tomorrow putting this on top even though you just feed is ok and then use these at the lowest strength application once a week.

I think that the photo plus one could be used at 5 ml per gallon. And the other whatever that says I'll guess and say 5ml per gal once a week also.
 
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