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londonfog

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So if I pay you an amount I determine, I can have your house, even if you don't want to sell it?

Now I see why you obey your wife's orders not to buy a motor cycle.

You will not pay me the amount you determined but you will pay the fair market value. The market value of my home has increased since our purchase, so I would win.
I would kick in your door when you are asleep, beat the living shit out of you ( with the help of your wife ) and then proceed to take your home and land ...not paying you shit but an ass whooping. I would give the land back to your wife with only her promised not to let you come back. If you did...repeat.
That's what would happen Rob if we had no government to stop me. You are too old and don't own too many guns if any. I don't OWN a motorcycle but I do have a nice Smith and Wesson collection ( 5 with cases ), 500 tac Moss ( I call her nutmeg ), Del-Ton RFTM16 with me just getting the rear sight installed ( had to also use a riser to clear front sight ). Should I also bring my dogs ?
 

hotrodharley

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You will not pay me the amount you determined but you will pay the fair market value. The market value of my home has increased since our purchase, so I would win.
I would kick in your door when you are asleep, beat the living shit out of you ( with the help of your wife ) and then proceed to take your home and land ...not paying you shit but an ass whooping. I would give the land back to your wife with only her promised not to let you come back. If you did...repeat.
That's what would happen Rob if we had no government to stop me. You are too old and don't own too many guns if any. I don't OWN a motorcycle but I do have a nice Smith and Wesson collection ( 5 with cases ), 500 tac Moss ( I call her nutmeg ), Del-Ton RFTM16 with me just getting the rear sight installed ( had to also use a riser to clear front sight ). Should I also bring my dogs ?
He doesn't understand his hated government spent a lot of money training a lot of us to light people up and to not only want to do it but to do so without guilt.
 

Rob Roy

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You will not pay me the amount you determined but you will pay the fair market value. The market value of my home has increased since our purchase, so I would win.
I would kick in your door when you are asleep, beat the living shit out of you ( with the help of your wife ) and then proceed to take your home and land ...not paying you shit but an ass whooping. I would give the land back to your wife with only her promised not to let you come back. If you did...repeat.
That's what would happen Rob if we had no government to stop me. You are too old and don't own too many guns if any. I don't OWN a motorcycle but I do have a nice Smith and Wesson collection ( 5 with cases ), 500 tac Moss ( I call her nutmeg ), Del-Ton RFTM16 with me just getting the rear sight installed ( had to also use a riser to clear front sight ). Should I also bring my dogs ?

The thing you fear, an entity being able to dispossess you of your home on their terms, already exists now. That's a fact.

Is it "winning" to have somebody dictate terms of a transaction without you being able to do anything about it ? Don't criminals make you offers you can't refuse?

Yes, bring your dogs, we'll throw them on spits and cook them over the flames of your burning beaten and broken carcass. (How was that?)
 

Rob Roy

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He doesn't understand his hated government spent a lot of money training a lot of us to light people up and to not only want to do it but to do so without guilt.

Thanks for making my arguments for me.

If you can kill a person not in the act of trying to kill you and you learned that from your government, would it be safe to say you were taught to obey so well, that your "training" is really purposeful indoctrination? (The answer is yes...even if you fail to address the point)

I know you're trying, but I need a little more challenge.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Rob has apparently never lived among real people from every socioeconomic level. Thinks government is the only thing that could separate him from land involuntarily. Has never heard "Plata o plomo?" and doesn't understand the realities of life. At least the government is somewhat constrained by the Constitution.
most of the times, there's no plato....just do what you're told, or you lose the plomo......
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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You will not pay me the amount you determined but you will pay the fair market value. The market value of my home has increased since our purchase, so I would win.
I would kick in your door when you are asleep, beat the living shit out of you ( with the help of your wife ) and then proceed to take your home and land ...not paying you shit but an ass whooping. I would give the land back to your wife with only her promised not to let you come back. If you did...repeat.
That's what would happen Rob if we had no government to stop me. You are too old and don't own too many guns if any. I don't OWN a motorcycle but I do have a nice Smith and Wesson collection ( 5 with cases ), 500 tac Moss ( I call her nutmeg ), Del-Ton RFTM16 with me just getting the rear sight installed ( had to also use a riser to clear front sight ). Should I also bring my dogs ?
i like up close and personal work, myself. i've practiced wado ryu for 35 years and escrima for 20. i can throw knives, axes, hatchets with great accuracy....i'm a lot better prepared for Robs proposed future than he is...and i don't want it....if he had the sense god gave an addled goat, he wouldn't want any of the shit he says he does, because it would not go well for him. However, in his delusions, we'd all just get along and respect each others property and person....and that is a delusion. we HAVE police and people still can't get along...we HAVE rules and people can't follow them, we HAVE a society but some people are never happy. it does need to be improved, badly, but shitcanning the whole thing and letting people run rampant is not only not an answer, it's FUCKING WORSE....you want to take what little control there is and turn people loose to "behave and get along"....fucking delusion....and nothing but
 

hotrodharley

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Thanks for making my arguments for me.

If you can kill a person not in the act of trying to kill you and you learned that from your government, would it be safe to say you were taught to obey so well, that your "training" is really purposeful indoctrination? (The answer is yes...even if you fail to address the point)

I know you're trying, but I need a little more challenge.
You don't understand nature at all. Away with you, you scurvy worm. Someone will be scraping you off the bottom of their boots someday.
 

hotrodharley

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The thing you fear, an entity being able to dispossess you of your home on their terms, already exists now. That's a fact.

Is it "winning" to have somebody dictate terms of a transaction without you being able to do anything about it ? Don't criminals make you offers you can't refuse?

Yes, bring your dogs, we'll throw them on spits and cook them over the flames of your burning beaten and broken carcass. (How was that?)
The only thing you have ever beaten was your own meat.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The only thing you have ever beaten was your own meat.
he is either not a fighter, or he's a liar....it sure seems like he expects people to be nice, and get along, and not mistreat each other if you remove all controls over their lives. to have that attitude, you have to have been very sheltered, protected from the wolves of the world. you can not have had any exposure to violent, mean, untrustworthy people, or this attitude would collapse under it's own hypocrisy.
or...he's a fucking liar, who does all the things he descries, then talks out of the other side of his mouth to us....
so, either way, his opinion is completely useless to me. it is either unreliable, or uninformed....
doesn't really matter much either way, the result is the same.....more nonsense...
 

hotrodharley

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he is either not a fighter, or he's a liar....it sure seems like he expects people to be nice, and get along, and not mistreat each other if you remove all controls over their lives. to have that attitude, you have to have been very sheltered, protected from the wolves of the world. you can not have had any exposure to violent, mean, untrustworthy people, or this attitude would collapse under it's own hypocrisy.
or...he's a fucking liar, who does all the things he descries, then talks out of the other side of his mouth to us....
so, either way, his opinion is completely useless to me. it is either unreliable, or uninformed....
doesn't really matter much wither way, the result is the same.....more nonsense...
He's never been in the military is my first guess. He's all blow and no go. Either way he's not a fighter.
 

hotrodharley

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If you can kill a person not in the act of trying to kill you and you learned that from your government, would it be safe to say you were taught to obey so well, that your "training" is really purposeful indoctrination?
You are what makes people want to return you to dust. You. Even if a government didn't exist. In fact, it's the only reason you are still sucking air. Tell us we're the first to loathe you.
 

londonfog

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The thing you fear, an entity being able to dispossess you of your home on their terms, already exists now. That's a fact.

Is it "winning" to have somebody dictate terms of a transaction without you being able to do anything about it ? Don't criminals make you offers you can't refuse?

Yes, bring your dogs, we'll throw them on spits and cook them over the flames of your burning beaten and broken carcass. (How was that?)
fair market value of my home right now would give me a profit.

I have had plenty of offers I could not refuse. I don't think they were criminals.

that was awful. Rob if we had no government with laws and rules I would most certainly find you and make you a slave. Sorry but I would, just so you know what a real slave feels like. Remember I have guns :D
 

Rob Roy

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fair market value of my home right now would give me a profit.

I have had plenty of offers I could not refuse. I don't think they were criminals.

that was awful. Rob if we had no government with laws and rules I would most certainly find you and make you a slave. Sorry but I would, just so you know what a real slave feels like. Remember I have guns :D

If I made you an offer you didn't like, could I force you to be held to my terms?
 
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