First Time Shroom Grower PF-Tek

vertise

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its a bit more complex. you pressure cook or micro wave a 60/40 mix of vermiculite and coco coir with ample water then let it cool. Then mix the substrate into the verm/coir. when you microwave the verm/coir you have to do it for 20 minutes. after mixing cover with foil put in chamber and your set. after it looks like the casing has been covered about 50 percent take off the tin foil. The link has everthing along with the rest of that shroom site. just search and you will find. the only difference was i microwaved the verm/coir he preasure cooks it
 

vertise

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that shits no good man, just a way for someone to make money. You can just make what you need from supplies at a homedepot and order spores from sporeworks.com, Just do research man thats the best way
 

vertise

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i also made something called a liquid culture which is honey water and spores in a jar. the honey allows the spores to colonize and you have white cloudy shit floating inside which is why its called a liquid culture. Speeds up the growth time when you inject it into substrate. and one quart of a liquid culture will make around 200 jars
 

phishhead

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for me, i think it's a little too involved for my first shroom grow. i want to get a handle on basic mycology first, walk before i crawl you know.... but i'm sure once i feel comfortable with the dynamics of fungus growth i'll progress onwards and upwards.

i'll be starting soon...any damn day now if things would come together for me.....just once...sigh....lol

how long can my spores sit in the syringe on my dresser? do they break down in the water over time?

thanks for the discussion guys, got me spinning my wheels again..
 

vertise

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i cased my first time, wasnt hard to do just alot of reading. Spores are good for a good amount of time some may crap out but overall it will be fine. Just dont let the temp go to 100 degrees or higher. That temp will kill your spores. So for example dont put your spores on a heater or under a intense light or yada yada. they will die once the solution hits over 100 degrees f
 

jollygreengiant8

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ive looked at casings a few times and i would love to get that kind of weight..but im not there yet.

a few successful pftek runs then hopefully i can move onto grain or casings.
i would eventually like to do an outdoor mushie grow.
 

Thundercat

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Thats cool vertise, I read threw that whole link, and thats about what I thought, I just didn't elaborate. The only part of that kit that I was thinking would be hard to get at homedepot was the enviroment pump. I was considering just buying that and getting the rest from lowes or whatever. All the rest of the stuff is everyday stuff. I'm getting ready to do a grow bag grow. Thats what I did last time, and for 80 bucks it was a great investment I felt. It was simple as could be, and if I do that then when they are ready, i'll be able to get the spores, and start my own for the next batch. I'll deffinitly be casing the next batch, it seems very simple and straight forward. Thanks for the links. Did you put your honey mixture into jars in the pc, then colonize them after it was cooked? Also how long did you leave it to grow, before you put it into the fridge, I'd hate to go through the work and then stunt the growth.
 

vertise

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Thats cool vertise, I read threw that whole link, and thats about what I thought, I just didn't elaborate. The only part of that kit that I was thinking would be hard to get at homedepot was the enviroment pump. I was considering just buying that and getting the rest from lowes or whatever. All the rest of the stuff is everyday stuff. I'm getting ready to do a grow bag grow. Thats what I did last time, and for 80 bucks it was a great investment I felt. It was simple as could be, and if I do that then when they are ready, i'll be able to get the spores, and start my own for the next batch. I'll deffinitly be casing the next batch, it seems very simple and straight forward. Thanks for the links. Did you put your honey mixture into jars in the pc, then colonize them after it was cooked? Also how long did you leave it to grow, before you put it into the fridge, I'd hate to go through the work and then stunt the growth.
yea preasure cooked the honey and water and let cool, then add spores. I let it grow a week.
 

Thundercat

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Cool so grow for a week then in the fridge till I need it, sweet. The you can just inoculate with that I take it. Do you just spoon the white part in, or can you actually just use the liquid and inject it, or does the white part stay suspended in the liquid?

Do you do anything special after you pick the first flush to get ready for the second?
 

vertise

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you can just inject the liquid and white part together. you may want to put a marble in the jar so you can shake and break up the white mycelium cause it grows in a clump. also you need to be very sterile not to contaminate it so you may want to get a resealable rubber top for the hole. Same thing a doctor would use when he measure out a syringe of something from a bottle. after the first pick just soak the casing or case in a 5 percent hydrogen peroxide 95 percent water mix for 1 hour. take out and you will see growth in a week or two. repeat until your casing or case is dipleted
 

Thundercat

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Thanks alot for all the info man, I've been learning for the last year about all this stuff, and getting the info, and reassurance from someone that has done it is really helpful.

So what do you think about the atmoshpere pump, the link you gave me showed them using some sort of humidity pump but it didn't give a great explanation about where to get one, or how to make one.
 

vertise

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hey man its late where i am at, so i am going to pass out. but the site i gave you uses a normal fish tank heater placed in a thing of water. you can take a fish tank heater and put it in a gallon jar. when kept at 85 degrees it will create alot of moisture in your chamber. it works very well. creates the proper amount of moisture needed withing the chamber. there are alot of ways to do this. the heater placed in a jar of water works pretty well.
 

jollygreengiant8

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the jars are still sitting in the incubator..no pining yet
im going to make myself get around to birthing them tomorrow and proceed with the dunk and roll then into the fruiting chamber.

ill get some pics up after this all takes place.
:peace:
 

jollygreengiant8

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i finally birthed the 2 jars, rinsed them off, and submerged them in water.
tomorrow night i will take them out, rinse again, then roll in dry verm and put them in their new home.

ill take some pics of them in the fruiting chamber tomorrow and you guys can tell me how my setup is or if i should change something or do something different.

im feeling kind of lost, im not sure about what all i should be doing for them once their in their new home..all i know is to try to keep temps around mid 70s, high humidity, mist walls and fan every so often..anything else i should keep in mind?
 

jollygreengiant8

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i opened the cabinet that i put the jars with contams in until im convinced that they are trash, well there was a jar in there..this jar had some funky green mold looking stuff growing on it..and now its fully colonized, the mycelium took over and ate that shit up.

so that was a sweet surprise..

i think ill give it a few more days to make sure its colonized completely before i birth it
 
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