Moabfighter

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Thanks @Or_Gro yes all autos.

My next run is going to. Be all Ethos photos aside from one of my own cuts of Mephisto Deez nugs.

Autos perform well in smaller pots in my experience. My one gallons yielded 2-3x what my three gallons yielded.

Nervous about starting these expensive beans DWC. But I’m going to put faith in your judgement man and I’ll post pics daily along the way.

Concerning to me that my well water wasn’t the issue. :/
 

Or_Gro

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Word ! Hope this place is more laid back than gc . Like smoke said . Mods are a bunch of clowns .
Mods aside, gc is more laidback, imo...lots of touchy subjects here, with people lookin for a fight....but, some of the best experts and lots of good folk.
 

Moabfighter

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Word ! Hope this place is more laid back than gc . Like smoke said . Mods are a bunch of clowns .
Iceman is in our comparative ethos grow. He’s from grasscity along with Smokexbreak. we are all experienced growers hoping to share knowledge and learn more.
 

iceman2494

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You can start them in a rapid rooter or root riot, when roots come out, put rr in a net cup with hydroton and put in a bucket w airstone (pH 5.9-6.1, temp 65-70F, hydroguard/garden friendly fungicide, no nutes); when roots start branching (about 3 pairs of true leaves), add veg nutes at about 300ppm).

Getting plants started in dwc is the hardest part. But, the key to any part of growth cycle in dwc is pH, temp, hydroguard/garden friendly fungicide, bubbles, nute ppm...not much tolerance for error/neglect on this stuff.

Btw, if your well water is only 250ppm, that’s not what killed your plant. 250 is fine, mine is somewhere higher than that, no prob. I’m running ro water this run, but actually like my house water better (ro wastes a lot of time and water, makes pH adjustment trickier, and doesn't seem to be doing anything better).
I’m with Moab on this dwc trend . Think my tap water ppms below 100 ... was going to use distilled water. My question is when you have a tap root in the rr you put in the net pot. Do you just top feed it till roots hit the res?
 

Moabfighter

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I’m with Moab on this dwc trend . Think my tap water ppms below 100 ... was going to use distilled water. My question is when you have a tap root in the rr you put in the net pot. Do you just top feed it till roots hit the res?
Top “water”.

Think based on what @Or_Gro said we won’t need much nutes until they have some decent leaves. Apparently. I wouldn’t have guessed that. Glad to see that info. Keeps it simple for a couple weeks.
 

Or_Gro

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Thanks @Or_Gro yes all autos.

My next run is going to. Be all Ethos photos aside from one of my own cuts of Mephisto Deez nugs.

Autos perform well in smaller pots in my experience. My one gallons yielded 2-3x what my three gallons yielded.

Nervous about starting these expensive beans DWC. But I’m going to put faith in your judgement man and I’ll post pics daily along the way.

Concerning to me that my well water wasn’t the issue. :/
Maybe run a couple dwc, rest in your normal media, til you get it dialed in...

Make sure you reread my 2nd to last paragraph. You gotta know what the optimal ranges are, and nail them....means you need some dependable monitoring equipment, chems, and a daily commitment.
 

Moabfighter

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The neglect with DWC is my primary issue. I work a real job 45-60 hours a week pretty much sunup to sun down.

I’m not against soil. But saw some bros on grasscity with monsters. They’re ALL DWC monsters. I’m not in a state where I can waste much time with small yields. Mephisto stuff for example nice smoke. Killer smoke. But plants are literally a third the size of any other breeder I’ve ever grown..... meh.

I really need to nail the DWC guys. I wanted to run 5 buckets in my 4x4 and not touch soil ever again..... just gotta nail it. If not it’s a wasted run. And I can’t waste runs.
 

iceman2494

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Well I figure a plant survives off itself for a week or two .clyde uses that mega crop stuff . Still have a decent amount of that . That silica blast and hydro guard and cal mag is what I have. Besides general organics go box .
 

Or_Gro

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I’m with Moab on this dwc trend . Think my tap water ppms below 100 ... was going to use distilled water. My question is when you have a tap root in the rr you put in the net pot. Do you just top feed it till roots hit the res?
Don’t waste time/$ on distilled water if ppm below 100 - absolute waste if that is the true ppm.

When you put rr into netcup w hydroton, that whole unit goes into bucket, Approx 1/2” ftom water surface. Your airstone will bubble, the bubbles will burst on surface, spitting microdtoplets all over that netcup, no top feed needed or recommended(i think it contributes to damping off, the biggest dwc risk at that stage, imo).
 

Or_Gro

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Top “water”.

Think based on what @Or_Gro said we won’t need much nutes until they have some decent leaves. Apparently. I wouldn’t have guessed that. Glad to see that info. Keeps it simple for a couple weeks.
The cotyledon contains all the food a seedling needs until it’s roots are functional.

Root branching (looks like a net) is around when they can really start uptaking nutes...
 

Or_Gro

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The neglect with DWC is my primary issue. I work a real job 45-60 hours a week pretty much sunup to sun down.

I’m not against soil. But saw some bros on grasscity with monsters. They’re ALL DWC monsters. I’m not in a state where I can waste much time with small yields. Mephisto stuff for example nice smoke. Killer smoke. But plants are literally a third the size of any other breeder I’ve ever grown..... meh.

I really need to nail the DWC guys. I wanted to run 5 buckets in my 4x4 and not touch soil ever again..... just gotta nail it. If not it’s a wasted run. And I can’t waste runs.
Do 1 bucket dwc, see if you can make that work, then decide. More buckets, more work, more risk.

You gotta be on it, dwc can have great yields (w good lights) but you gotta have a routine that absolutely nails the basics...
 

Or_Gro

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Nice ! I’ll check it again . It’s city water .
City water is usually chlorinated, it needs to stand for some time for the chlorine to volatilize. i fill a few buckets and put bubblers in them to offgas the chlorine and add extra oxygen.
 

Moabfighter

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Don’t waste time/$ on distilled water if ppm below 100 - absolute waste if that is the true ppm.

When you put rr into netcup w hydroton, that whole unit goes into bucket, Approx 1/2” ftom water surface. Your airstone will bubble, the bubbles will burst on surface, spitting microdtoplets all over that netcup, no top feed needed or recommended(i think it contributes to damping off, the biggest dwc risk at that stage, imo).
Thanks for that info
 

Ibn Vapin

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MAN I THOUGHT THE MOTHER FUCKING ISS HAD FALLEN ON MY FAVORITE POSTING SITE. I WAS ABOUT TO STRAP UP AND GO AFTER ISIS FOR IT.

...But on the real, welcome back ladies and gents. My threads are pretty chill, just try to take nothing personal unless you're being an idiot. Let's be real, we're potheads. Idiot happens sometime :D

Supposed to get a call Monday about getting a ct scan of my abdomen so they can see if I have a blockage that's making me sick, so, hurry the fucking fuck UP Monday. I'm so done with this weird state of twisted equilibrium.

Plants are looking pretty dainty. Let's see here...By the way, my plants are only about the level of Damn Good in dwc. @Or_Gro is the man to listen to for Near Godly. Dwc is also a LOT of work, so if you don't have the time it may not be for you.

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Side shot of the mango kush.

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Raspberry Cough here. Asymmetrical clone so she wasn't mainlined, I just let her grow and topped her here and there.

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The trunk, because yes it's a trunk now, of my mango kush. That's harvest trimmers, an empty 10mm syringe, and my stirring dowel. Size references. Glad to be back.
 

Moabfighter

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I also screenshotted the info you gave me a page back.

I have hydroguard sillica blast and an assortment of nutrients. Pump is over 1000GPh and I have good air stones. Running quantum boards and a mars hydro “qb”. Lights seem fine. Tent seems large enough. Just gotta try hard and put effort to learning.
 
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