I've heard the Herc & synth b4 too.....makes sense and prolly produces some fire!! I hear people loading up the Herc in the end like ripening flush then doing New Millenium winter frost & ruby fulvic for last 2 weeks( one of the weeks plain water) can add Aphro too for carbs....I may give this a try one day!! Winter frost isn't BK but it empties out the CEC of soil and tricks plant that its winter and forces ripening....pretty Damn cool if you ask me!!
So if i do a slurry with RO it wont be accurate? The slurry i did last night before i planted came out at 6.3ph and 275ppm. Also i dont know if i trust this tds meter i have. Whats a reliable tds meter to use?
Blue lab ppm and ph pens 100% trust...RO alone will not be accurate with ph or ppm ... RO with slurry is accurate cause now the meters can read something... your fine on that part . rule of thumb is what you feed with is what you do slurries with , another words you feed using tap water use tap water to slurry and if you use RO water to feed then use RO to slurry , ECT , ECT... since RO is a clean slate there nothing for the ph or ppm pens to read until there something added to RO water...... here a couple pics of my notes and a pic from end of march and now ...under 630w cmh .
Thanks Irie! Im going to feed them some spring water for a couple weeks. Ill grab some full on with hades down also. I take Its not safe to rinse my ph meter in ro then? Il go grab some distilled water for rinsing if so.
use the water out of tap to rinse ....
Awesome good to know!! Im looking at the blue lab truncheon meter is that the one to go with?
Looks amazing bubba!! Im all for the labor I have one slurry logged so im on my way haha!! Also im using #4 soil any clue why ph and ppm is so low? My slurry came in at 6.3ph 275 ppms.
The truncheon is ppm and EC only, and is really nice if your mixing in 5 gallons and up. The pen kit is all that's needed for 1-2.5 gallon feed buckets. NO pure DISTILLED or RO water on the ph pen it will screw up. And #4 soil is sold to be in the proper feeding range for nectar. So you can start low dose feeding soon....if your soil slurries fall outside the the 300-600 ppm & 6.3-6.8 ph range than you will start having issues. Your slurry # suggest it's time to start introducing nectar!! once you get some more food in the rootzone the soil ph should rise with it....your primed and ready!!
wait till the pop thru usually wait till after 1st set of leafs before feeding , very lite feed , mix 1.5 - 2ml per 1/2 gallon .. or a quart .... start with dr root and then start the lite feed and as plant gets bigger add more food.... .
it will also depends on the batch of soil ...... been awhile since I used fresh soil... I use amended soil...
outdoor grow with #4 ? one shot , EWC ..... making a super soil ..... 5. gallon pot use 2 cups of one shot mix real good and just water ... add nutrients as needed .... every once in awhile still gotta do a slurry ....
Blue Lab PH Pen and Blue Lab Ppm pen is what you want .... "PENS"
let em pop up and get a couple sets of leaves. Stick with Dr root only like bubba said, and that biology plus the light NPK will nourish the plant and will start digesting the #4 a little more so your next slurry could show a bit higher and shouldn't risk going over range. once they settle in the pot I like to do 5 ml Gaia, 2.5 ml Kraken & 15 ml of fulpower plus SLF ph 6.4 to really get the roots to explode and develop a more fibrous structure before I move into the growth schedule! I don't like stimulating upward vegetative growth until I give this powerful ROOT BOOSTER recipe that feeds the endo myco that is still not fully colonized yet, the phos to stimulate root growth energy, the fulvic gets the soil moving and opens up calcium ion channels and the low N & K keep the seedling from stretching!! This primes the plant to handle the more complex meals of the vegetative feed schedule. Soon as you start introducing more amino & protein Nitrogen the plant moves away from solely root development into full spectrum growth root to shoot. This first couple feeds will be light and gentle and has all the requirements for this growth stage and allows the plant to build a metabolism for nectar. You will be fine running 1/2 strength base nutes but I have never been a fan of this technique because nutrients aren't designed like this, and it just builds weak plants that don't get everything they need for healthy growth, the law of minimums comes into play. The way I do it allows me to feed at recommended doses giving the plant everything it requires for healthy vigorous growth. Obviously not full Roman bottles right away but she can take the core 4 at full strength no problem but the more patient you can be before introducing these veg nutes, the stronger your foundation gets for the rest of the grow, resulting a more resilient plant that will explode through the different stages of growth.
Since its more of an innoculant with light npk meal to feed microbes, I'd say 6.2 - 6.4. It's super gentle, I think a full tbs. In a gallon isn't over 250 ppm.
I think the bible lays out a heavy to light one shot application per sq ft.....and like a once a week treat of some nectar or a tea.
be 1x tea weekly , 1x feed weekly .... be every other week for tea and every other week feed ... in between just water as needed ... im do for a feed but also had some rain ... I also top dress EWC ... one shot would be a judgment call and depends what amendments you already put in or using fresh soil.... of course you can always scratch more in ...