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Rob Roy

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Do u live in Frisco Rob?....
Thank you for asking, No I do not live in San Francisco.
BUT....

If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people.. there

 

UncleBuck

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Sometimes I wish you'd kept your 1993 "fecal floor bombing" of that beleaguered Wendy's bathroom tile
a secret.
hitler used similar lies about jews to justify the slaughter of them, just like ron paul does

ron paul actually described how to kill a black person and plant a gun on their corpse in his newsletters

no wonder a neo-nazi fucktard like you loves him
 

UncleBuck

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If you had a choice wouldn't you stop paying for that and give your money to a fire protection service provider without any duress who more closely align with your beliefs and needs ?
you can't even afford a fridge you fucking food stamp welfare sponge

 

Fogdog

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you can't even afford a fridge you fucking food stamp welfare sponge

That tragedy is what happens when libertarians and "free markets" take over. The county HAD fire protection rolled into property taxes for decades with no problems but the right wing nuts split it out into a fee-for-service program. Now there is an uproar by the same dumbshits who insisted on that changing that program in the first place.

The county now has a system where the property owner who failed to pay the $75 fee will be charged $2300 but firefighters will put the house fire out regardless. It's still a stupid idea.
 

londonfog

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That tragedy is what happens when libertarians and "free markets" take over. The county HAD fire protection rolled into property taxes for decades with no problems but the right wing nuts split it out into a fee-for-service program. Now there is an uproar by the same dumbshits who insisted on that changing that program in the first place.

The county now has a system where the property owner who failed to pay the $75 fee will be charged $2300 but firefighters will put the house fire out regardless. It's still a stupid idea.
"They just doing what they were told to do".
I would place a bet that lady voted Trump MAGA
 

Fogdog

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"They just doing what they were told to do".
I would place a bet that lady voted Trump MAGA
That lady also complained, "It was because of the people in charge".

"The people in charge" were the tea baggers voters who insisted on making funding for fire protection service contingent upon paying that fee. "I'm not going to be forced to pay for a service I don't use". How many times have we heard that? This is the outcome and nobody is the winner here.
 

londonfog

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That lady also complained, "It was because of the people in charge".

"The people in charge" were the tea baggers voters who insisted on making funding for fire protection service contingent upon paying that fee. "I'm not going to be forced to pay for a service I don't use". How many times have we heard that? This is the outcome and nobody is the winner here.
@Rob Roy
 

Rob Roy

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Can't get ass Ron Paul civil rights views. The world will be a better place when he dies...which should be pretty soon
I wonder why he was the only Presidential candidate calling for an end to the drug war and declared prohibition fueled an unjust and disproportionate racist incarceration of black people ?

I figured you guys would be buddies, both having been in the Air Force and being so good with math and all.
 

Rob Roy

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That tragedy is what happens when libertarians and "free markets" take over. The county HAD fire protection rolled into property taxes for decades with no problems but the right wing nuts split it out into a fee-for-service program. Now there is an uproar by the same dumbshits who insisted on that changing that program in the first place.

The county now has a system where the property owner who failed to pay the $75 fee will be charged $2300 but firefighters will put the house fire out regardless. It's still a stupid idea.

So what you're trying to say is unless people pay your overlords money, there is no other way for people to be protected from fire?

That unless something is funded via extortion it would never work....like grocery stores...oh wait.
 

Rob Roy

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That lady also complained, "It was because of the people in charge".

"The people in charge" were the tea baggers voters who insisted on making funding for fire protection service contingent upon paying that fee. "I'm not going to be forced to pay for a service I don't use". How many times have we heard that? This is the outcome and nobody is the winner here.
Would you personally force another person to pay for an idea that you like, but they don't ?

Would you use a gun to do it or would you hire a thug (using other peoples money) in a uniform with a gun and a badge?

You're fine with paying to bomb and drone innocent people ? Fine with paying to incarcerate people for victimless crimes? Are you forced to pay for that or do you pay to bomb and incarcerate innocent people willingly?
 

Fogdog

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Would you personally force another person to pay for an idea that you like, but they don't ?

Would you use a gun to do it or would you hire a thug (using other peoples money) in a uniform with a gun and a badge?

You're fine with paying to bomb and drone innocent people ? Fine with paying to incarcerate people for victimless crimes? Are you forced to pay for that or do you pay to bomb and incarcerate innocent people willingly?
Oh my, so much violence. No need for that.

Your way:

The guy's house burned to the ground and he was mighty unhappy about that. Nobody was happy about that. Everybody wanted to save his house but the only people with the right equipment to do the job were constrained by law to let it burn because of a $75 dollar fee that went unpaid. This system was legal and in fact was the one that the people said they wanted until the consequences came to roost. So, now, they have changed their system to allow firefighters to put that fire out and charge $2300 bucks if the homeowner didn't pay the $75 dollar service fee ahead of time. The home owner could tell them they didn't want their house fire to be put out. The idiocy of this system is apparent even to the people who live there so nobody is happy. The lunatics who voted for this system are blaming the managers who are doing what the voters told them to do. Your kind are not very smart. Your lunatic ideas create these stupid situations.

My way:

Where I live the people of my community pay for a properly funded, well managed and maintained fire fighting unit through property taxes. The fire fighting unit has a predictable and reliable funding mechanism, a process for paying for the maintenance and replacement of equipment as needed. When somebody's house catches fire, the only question is how long does it take for the firemen to get there. We are smug about the superiority of our process also we are much smarter than you are.
 

UncleBuck

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I wonder why he was the only Presidential candidate calling for an end to the drug war and declared prohibition fueled an unjust and disproportionate racist incarceration of black people ?

I figured you guys would be buddies, both having been in the Air Force and being so good with math and all.
Only candidate with his own section on stormfront too
 

Moses Mobetta

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So what you're trying to say is unless people pay your overlords money, there is no other way for people to be protected from fire?

That unless something is funded via extortion it would never work....like grocery stores...oh wait.
It's like insurance, payment was in the property tax. You want to collect on an insurance plan you didn't pay for? It's the same thing. Nobody wants the cops around until something happens but who is going to pay for that? The money has to come from somewhere. Ambulance, paramedics, fire Dept. all great services people need at some time.
 

Moses Mobetta

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Oh my, so much violence. No need for that.

Your way:

The guy's house burned to the ground and he was mighty unhappy about that. Nobody was happy about that. Everybody wanted to save his house but the only people with the right equipment to do the job were constrained by law to let it burn because of a $75 dollar fee that went unpaid. This system was legal and in fact was the one that the people said they wanted until the consequences came to roost. So, now, they have changed their system to allow firefighters to put that fire out and charge $2300 bucks if the homeowner didn't pay the $75 dollar service fee ahead of time. The home owner could tell them they didn't want their house fire to be put out. The idiocy of this system is apparent even to the people who live there so nobody is happy. The lunatics who voted for this system are blaming the managers who are doing what the voters told them to do. Your kind are not very smart. Your lunatic ideas create these stupid situations.

My way:

Where I live the people of my community pay for a properly funded, well managed and maintained fire fighting unit through property taxes. The fire fighting unit has a predictable and reliable funding mechanism, a process for paying for the maintenance and replacement of equipment as needed. When somebody's house catches fire, the only question is how long does it take for the firemen to get there. We are smug about the superiority of our process also we are much smarter than you are.
  • Not only that but when the house burns down the property is worth much less. Eventually everyone else's taxes go up to cover that.
  • Sounds like how to be a freeloader in a few easy steps
 

Rob Roy

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Oh my, so much violence. No need for that.

Your way:

The guy's house burned to the ground and he was mighty unhappy about that. Nobody was happy about that. Everybody wanted to save his house but the only people with the right equipment to do the job were constrained by law to let it burn because of a $75 dollar fee that went unpaid. This system was legal and in fact was the one that the people said they wanted until the consequences came to roost. So, now, they have changed their system to allow firefighters to put that fire out and charge $2300 bucks if the homeowner didn't pay the $75 dollar service fee ahead of time. The home owner could tell them they didn't want their house fire to be put out. The idiocy of this system is apparent even to the people who live there so nobody is happy. The lunatics who voted for this system are blaming the managers who are doing what the voters told them to do. Your kind are not very smart. Your lunatic ideas create these stupid situations.

My way:

Where I live the people of my community pay for a properly funded, well managed and maintained fire fighting unit through property taxes. The fire fighting unit has a predictable and reliable funding mechanism, a process for paying for the maintenance and replacement of equipment as needed. When somebody's house catches fire, the only question is how long does it take for the firemen to get there. We are smug about the superiority of our process also we are much smarter than you are.

You didn't describe my way though. In both scenarios you depicted, a coercively funded fire fighting system exists. That's not how I'd do it. That's your way.

My way doesn't include funding things thru using a gun, smart guys like you want to control guns, unless you need them to fund your ideas, then you love guns.

Are you saying that it's impossible to fight a fire unless you use a gun to fund it? Sounds a little like you haven't thought this thru very well.
 

Rob Roy

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It's like insurance, payment was in the property tax. You want to collect on an insurance plan you didn't pay for? It's the same thing. Nobody wants the cops around until something happens but who is going to pay for that? The money has to come from somewhere. Ambulance, paramedics, fire Dept. all great services people need at some time.
If I decide how to spend your money for you, are you okay with that?

Are you saying if I did decide how to spend your money for you, I would be providing you a great service, even if you didn't like the so called service ?
 
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Rob Roy

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Only candidate with his own section on stormfront too
I'm not familiar with that website and am only aware of it from your constant references to it.

If you were made honorary hero of the month by an organization you disavowed would that mean you are guilty of something?

For instance, lets say there was a coveted trophy for who could foul another persons property with feces, but you, well okay, not you, but some other person who'd never fouled a floor with feces in their entire life won the award, would you condemn them for being recognized by the Secret Society of Shit Bandits? Well? Would you?
 
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