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eddy600

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Fiat Chrysler is giving Tesla $2Billion to buy Tesla carbon credits so Dodge can keep selling cars....lol

"Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has said it will pay electric carmaker Tesla close to €2bn to help it meet tough new emissions targets and has reported a 29 per cent drop in first-quarter profits. The company will purchase credits from Tesla to help it hit carbon dioxide goals and avoid large fines in the US and Europe, at an estimated cost of €1.8bn. Carmakers across Europe are striving to meet a 2020 EU target of average car CO2 emissions of 95g per kilometre. In 2018, average emissions were 120.5g per kilometre, according to data supplier Jato Dynamics."..https://www.ft.com/content/fd8d205e-6d6b-11e9-80c7-60ee53e6681d

Tesla for the win....:blsmoke:
Carbon credits aren't good for any body but Tesla.they just allow the other car company to put out overly polluting cars without investing in less polluting technology. We have the highest prices for gas here because of carbon credits,one company buys a refinery and closes it for the credits so they don't have to upgrade two or three other refineries. they run the refineries harder & the shutdowns & turnarounds happen more frequently. They make up for loss of refining buy spiking the prices.
 

doublejj

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Carbon credits aren't good for any body but Tesla.they just allow the other car company to put out overly polluting cars without investing in less polluting technology. We have the highest prices for gas here because of carbon credits,one company buys a refinery and closes it for the credits so they don't have to upgrade two or three other refineries. they run the refineries harder & the shutdowns & turnarounds happen more frequently. They make up for loss of refining buy spiking the prices.
Helping Tesla is helping everybody.....win/win
 

TacoMac

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I'm waiting for the pickup truck.....
Well, don't hold your breath. He's been talking about it for 4 years now. Even if the prototype was released today, it would probably be another 2 years before they ever start building them.
 

doublejj

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Well, don't hold your breath. He's been talking about it for 4 years now. Even if the prototype was released today, it would probably be another 2 years before they ever start building them.
They are going to be out this fall Can't wait to see it.....my old truck is still running good, has a couple years left, I can wait.
 

TacoMac

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Tesla Model 3 out sold all other EV's combined in April....


Note: If you include Tesla Model S and Model X.......total is even better
Ummm...no.

That's total sales for the entire year so far in 2019 for Tesla. And it's an estimate.

Ummmm...no again on the pickup.

They hope to unveil it sometime this summer with a goal of actually putting it into production "sometime in the near future".

Considering that they unveiled the model X crossover months ago and aren't even going to start building it until next year, there's simply no way they're going to unveil a pickup sometime this summer and get it going anywhere near the end of the year.

End of next year maybe, if you're lucky. But again, being as how they've talked about it for 4 years and delivered nothing, I doubt highly anything will happen anytime soon.
 

doublejj

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The Tesla Model X crossover has been in production since 2014 and deliveries began in 2015. Global sales during the first nine months of 2018 totaled 34,630 units, allowing the Model X to pass the 100,000 milestone in September 2018, with 106,689 units delivered since inception....
 

TacoMac

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I meant the model Y. My mistake.

And stop getting your figures from wikipedia. They're wrong and based on sales projections, not actual number delivered.
 

doublejj

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Here's some actual numbers.......
Study: U.S. Fossil Fuel Subsidies Exceed Pentagon Spending
The IMF found that direct and indirect subsidies for coal, oil and gas in the U.S. reached $649 billion in 2015. Pentagon spending that same year was $599 billion. For the United States, the $649 billion in fossil fuel subsidies exceeded even the extravagant amount of money the country spent on defense. To offer a sense of scale, Pentagon spending accounted for 54 percent of the discretionary federal budget in 2015. In comparison to another important, but less well-funded part of the federal budget, fossil fuel subsidies were nearly 10 times what Congress spent on education. Broken down to an individual level, fossil fuel subsidies cost every man, woman and child in the United States $2,028 that year.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fossil-fuel-subsidies-pentagon-spending-imf-report-833035/
 

TacoMac

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Today's milestone:

The Nasdaq in 2014 has nearly doubled in value. This time in 2014 it was around 92 dollars and change per share. Today it is 185.77.

Tesla is a different story.

In 5 years of funding Elon Musk's tweets, the stock has increased a total of 3 cents.

That's it.

If you invested 100,000 dollars in Tesla 5 years ago today, today you would have a grand total of 100,003 dollars.

Well done, Elon. Well done.
 

doublejj

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Today's milestone:

The Nasdaq in 2014 has nearly doubled in value. This time in 2014 it was around 92 dollars and change per share. Today it is 185.77.

Tesla is a different story.

In 5 years of funding Elon Musk's tweets, the stock has increased a total of 3 cents.

That's it.

If you invested 100,000 dollars in Tesla 5 years ago today, today you would have a grand total of 100,003 dollars.

Well done, Elon. Well done.
Tesla's Mission Statement....


Mission Accomplished.....:clap:
 

londonfog

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Wow.

A public traded company that has a mission statement that fucks its investors over.

What a company!
The high demand for Tesla's vehicles outpaces what Tesla can supply, with nothing being spent on marketing. Even you seem to always have Tesla on your mind
Tesla now has managed to increase its production capacity each quarter to meet rising demand. Good news all around if you investing in long term. Remember the term supply and demand. More people are demanding then they can supply. Do you have any idea what that means from an investors view ?
Wise investors understand the long term value that Tesla will bring to any portfolio . Then we have those jealous fools who just live for what is happening today and not looking at the big picture. They never make the big money. Some were even saying Amazon is a bust. Amazon started in 1994, first profit was not until 2003.
I'm just going to take it that you are not much of an investor.
 
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