Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Or_Gro

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Say what?
Leds put light down in a cone, if they are too low, they don't spread light like if they are 6-12”+ higher... but the intensity (ppfd) drops off as you move higher... so gotta balance the tradeoff...that’s why guys get more powerful drivers w dimming...allows pumping out more ppfd as raise lights for even spread...then you have to deal with the heat (put drivers outside tent, add fans on sinks, etc)
 

3rd Monkey

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Leds put light down in a cone, if they are too low, they don't spread light like if they are 6-12”+ higher... but the intensity (ppfd) drops off as you move higher... so gotta balance the tradeoff...that’s why guys get more powerful drivers w dimming...allows pumping out more ppfd as raise lights for even spread...then you have to deal with the heat (put drivers outide tent, add fans on sinks, etc)
Ok, gotcha. The way I have the tape, at 32" off the canopy, it's 100 lux which was around 140ppfd. In the center, it's 130-140 on the meter. I kept it tight enough to negate spread as much as I could.

I added the LED, gave me an extra 35-50 ppfd at that range. I think I should be good, no?
 

StickyBudHound

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Makes sense, 4 96’s in a 4x4 can put down 1000ppfd across the canopy... just need to drive them 200-240w a piece (200w or more requires fan blowing on sinks)....basically what i’m doing with 6 (running cool)....
Wow... so they're kind of starting to get up into HPS kind of heat. Hmm.
 

Or_Gro

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Ok, gotcha. The way I have the tape, at 32" off the canopy, it's 100 lux which was around 140ppfd. In the center, it's 130-140 on the meter. I kept it tight enough to negate spread as much as I could.

I added the LED, gave me an extra 35-50 ppfd at that range. I think I should be good, no?
So what is your ppfd center to 32” by 12” increment? At what height?
 

StickyBudHound

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I’d like to know how to use big bloom without burning the living hell out of my plants lol

Cha Ching is best nute on market IMO
Also @bigggsteve89

Right now, here's what I'm using and how.

My bags are 25 gallon but probably only have about 20 gallons in them. I use equal parts of FFOF, FFHF soil conditioner and extra large perlite for my soil mix. Even like this, there's still plenty of Nitrogen to last you through most, if not all of veg.

I use a gallon and a half watering can filled but, I measure everything as if it were a gallon.

I use the hell out of Big Bloom. 6 tsp/gal and it goes in every can no matter what else I'm feeding.

I barely use Grow Big. I give a half tsp per gallon nearing the middle of a 8 week veg. I give another half tsp/gal around week 6 of flower.

In early veg after they've grown a few full nodes, I give a half tsp of Tiger Bloom every 3rd water, but never at the same time as I give magnesium, calcium or nitrogen. As soon as they flip to flower, I give TB full dose per their schedule every other feeding.

I give Open Sesame starting 2 weeks before flower, 1/4 tsp/gal every other water and stop at the end of flower week 2.

I give Beastie Bloomz starting at flower week 3 until the end of week 6 at 1/4 tsp/gal every other water.

I give Cha Ching starting flower week 7 through week 9, 1/4 tsp/gal every other water.

I'm flushing about every 3 to 4 weeks with just pHd water, ending with a final gallon with Big Bloom and maybe a little bump of Grow Big depending on the week. Then 2 weeks of flushing at the end.
 
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3rd Monkey

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So what is your ppfd center to 32” by 12” increment? At what height?
32" off the canopy, the outside tape line gives me 100 lux. In the center at 32", it gives me around 130. So 130 down to 100 at the edges at 32". Didn't get any other heights yet, but I know the spread will close as I move the lights closer.
 
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