(NEWBIE) Can you put more than 1 plant per pot

[yummy fur]

I know this thread is like a bazillion years old but it's no less relevant today. It is possible. This is Pink Grapefruit, Pineapple Gum and White Widow all happily getting along as they grow they will be manipulated to suit the space. The idea is to increase variety in a smaller space.

 

[kiwipaulie]

Of course you can, will they like it? Probably not

 

[LinguaPeel]

No. Earth is a myth. Its actually a grid of plastic trays, not forests.

 

[LinguaPeel]

No. Earth is a myth. Its actually a grid of plastic trays, not forests.

 

[yummy fur]

Of course you can, will they like it? Probably not

How do you expect them to express their 'dislike' as opposed to if each one was grown separately, apart from final yield that is. I'm hoping for a final yeild from all three to be equivalent to a single plant grown to cover the same area. My test will be done in 8 weeks.

 

[DustyDuke]

Checkout jzs147 diary he has grown 5 in the same pot it is 4x4 feet lol so it can done but only if the pots are massive. You just starving the plants of root space other wise

 

[toomp]

Put double seeds in pucks accident many times
Never bother to separate. Fed extra to feel good when it happens but it grows fine.

 

[yummy fur]

Checkout jzs147 diary he has grown 5 in the same pot it is 4x4 feet lol so it can done but only if the pots are massive. You just starving the plants of root space other wise

Well this is a 12" pot across the top... Pineapple Gum on the left and White Widow at the back and Pink Grapefruit on the right. At 5 weeks.



Closer shot of Pink Grapefruit

 

[DustyDuke]

Well this is a 12" pot across the top... Pineapple Gum on the left and White Widow at the back and Pink Grapefruit on the right. At 5 weeks.

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Closer shot of Pink Grapefruit

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You can do it in a 1/2 gal pot but you get root bound easily you will probably get an oz at most off each strain. Good luck, I wish you success. I’d rather have one plant this big then 4 trying to suffocate. That’s a Tangi took that pic a week ago same size pot it’s about 1 metre cubed week 2 of flower, should be good for 12 oz

 

[yummy fur]

You can do it in a 1/2 gal pot but you get root bound easily you will probably get an oz at most off each strain. Good luck, I wish you success. I’d rather have one plant this big then 4 trying to suffocate. That’s a Tangi took that pic a week ago same size pot it’s about 1 metre cubed week 2 of flower, should be good for 12 ozView attachment 4339997

Hi DD, yes I do agree that the secret is in the roots, it is my intuition that the plants can sense their root space and grow accordingly. With this in mind I have a system that over comes the root problem by using clay pellets which give a peculiarly good substrate structure for roots, then the roots are allowed to emerge from the bottom into a shallow water culture of a few inches, they also have some airspace between the SWC and the pot.

I managed to get 18 zips of my last automatic done this way in a pot on her own, although it was two harvests of 5 and 13 off the same plant obvs, this is just before the 2nd harvest . My aim for the three is to get a total of 8 zips eventually. Not sure what this crop brings if it can't make more than 3 zips I'd be surprised. I'm not expecting it but I also would not be surprised if these three produce 8 or more between them.

However I'm also looking to select plants that are suited to this type of grow and eventually maybe just grow single strains of multiple plants that are suited to this. For example of the three in this grow, Pink Grapefruit would do well. I'm thinking that three of them in a pot with 4 branches each would be better than one automatic with 12 branches.

 

[DustyDuke]

Hi DD, yes I do agree that the secret is in the roots, it is my intuition that the plants can sense their root space and grow accordingly. With this in mind I have a system that over comes the root problem by using clay pellets which give a peculiarly good substrate structure for roots, View attachment 4340216 then the roots are allowed to emerge from the bottom into a shallow water culture of a few inches, they also have some airspace between the SWC and the pot.View attachment 4340217

I managed to get 18 zips of my last automatic done this way in a pot on her own, although it was two harvests of 5 and 13 off the same plant obvs, this is just before the 2nd harvest View attachment 4340212 . My aim for the three is to get a total of 8 zips eventually. Not sure what this crop brings if it can't make more than 3 zips I'd be surprised. I'm not expecting it but I also would not be surprised if these three produce 8 or more between them.

However I'm also looking to select plants that are suited to this type of grow and eventually maybe just grow single strains of multiple plants that are suited to this. For example of the three in this grow, Pink Grapefruit would do well. I'm thinking that three of them in a pot with 4 branches each would be better than one automatic with 12 branches.View attachment 4340219

Nice are you putting the 3 plants because of limited space and want multiple strains or are you doing it to see how they go?
I’m building a veg room soon so I can veg for 2 months and flower for 2 I’m hoping to get a few extra grows in a year. I’m going to run 2 plants in Dwc and 2 in organic soil maybe 3 depending on size. I have a 5x5 running a 600w hps with adjustable ballasts and a 315w cmh all on light rails. That’s why I want big plants and big yields cost to much money to do small grows

 

[yummy fur]

Nice are you putting the 3 plants because of limited space and want multiple strains or are you doing it to see how they go?
I’m building a veg room soon so I can veg for 2 months and flower for 2 I’m hoping to get a few extra grows in a year. I’m going to run 2 plants in Dwc and 2 in organic soil maybe 3 depending on size. I have a 5x5 running a 600w hps with adjustable ballasts and a 315w cmh all on light rails. That’s why I want big plants and big yields cost to much money to do small grows

Yes, I am happy to have gotten 18 zips because it will just see me through till the next harvest, but I'd rather have more variety. If you're running DWC you may want to rework it a bit, my first set up just used a smaller net pot but the principle of the roots coming out and sitting in a shallow pool was the same, that produced 13 zips. I'm very leery of DWC's where the roots come straight out of a small pot into the nutrient. I know people do it and it works but it's better to give the roots some substrate. But it's horses for courses, I'm after variety and boutique harvests these days.

btw, Mars just released a pretty good budget light, their TS-2000 long version. 40 inches by 12 approximately. Designed for a 4 x 2 space. it's about 250 USD and I'd say it puts out as much light as say the HLG 300 V2 and just as efficient too. Components are lesser quality, the two drivers are not as well made as the meanwell, but the unit runs cool, is super light and puts out about 288W at the board and draws 310 at the wall.

 

[DustyDuke]

Yes, I am happy to have gotten 18 zips because it will just see me through till the next harvest, but I'd rather have more variety. If you're running DWC you may want to rework it a bit, my first set up just used a smaller net pot but the principle of the roots coming out and sitting in a shallow pool was the same, that produced 13 zips. I'm very leery of DWC's where the roots come straight out of a small pot into the nutrient. I know people do it and it works but it's better to give the roots some substrate. But it's horses for courses, I'm after variety and boutique harvests these days.

btw, Mars just released a pretty good budget light, their TS-2000 long version. 40 inches by 12 approximately. Designed for a 4 x 2 space. it's about 250 USD and I'd say it puts out as much light as say the HLG 300 V2 and just as efficient too. Components are lesser quality, the two drivers are not as well made as the meanwell, but the unit runs cool, is super light and puts out about 288W at the board and draws 310 at the wall.

So your doing aeroponics with extra clay balls is that what your doing looks good

 

[yummy fur]

So your doing aeroponics with extra clay balls is that what your doing looks good

I started with aeroponics, but what I'm using now is simply a normal inert substrate, plus a shallow water culture, which is like a DWC except it's only a few inches deep. So you get all the advantages of a DWC without any of the disadvantages. The main plant is sitting in the 27L of clay balls. The only air that gets to the roots apart from what gets dragged into the clay pellets, is the air gap of a few inches from the bottom of the pot to the top of the shallow pool. I think that the clay pellets are unlike any other inert substrate for this technique. The technique being to give the roots two ideal systems with each one offering redundancy.

The pot at the bottom is just a hollow stand. It's really just one pot inside another pot.

My thinking is that with a super root system that it opens up extreme high stress technique because it can recover quickly. But in the end, I just want to grow more variety. I'm going to try two Think Bigs in one pot because I know how that grows, and one bean was small and grey and it has made a weak looking seedling, so this will be interesting to see if the bad seed recovers. The small seed popped first.

 

[yummy fur]

It's starting to get interesting. At the moment if you squint all three appear to be a single plant although a bit bigger than what I'd expect at this age. I've pruned these with the idea that I'm only expecting a third output from each. I have noticed that all three have flipped earlier than any other autos I've grown on their own. They're at seven weeks now.

 

[yummy fur]

may as well update, so far what is most interesting is that all three have flowered at the same time in spite of two being topped and one not. this is 8 weeks now. Pink Grapefruit has commandeered half the grow with the other half split between White Widow and Pineapple Gum which had a branch snapped off and repaired without any problem.

 

[yummy fur]

OK the final result is in White Widow produced 2.5 zip of high quality tight small nugs, which a delightful woody aroma. Pineapple Gum by the mysterious sounding Black Skull was another freebie that has delighted me. It really smells like pineapple, got 3 zip of shy frosty buds. Pink Grapefruit though was a rock star super frosty, beautiful autumn colours and a lot of under growth larf that was nevertheless packed with trichomes that I will juice, 6.75 zips off the Pink Grapefruit. These are all autos btw.

So that is over 12 zips of quality bud in a 16L SWC, better than I expected, I was hoping for 8 zips. These were topped and trimmed a lot to keep them under control.

So I think we can mark this thread as answered and that answer is a YES, if you know what you're doing.

This is what I call larf and here's some Pink Grapefruit juice and some other shots of white widow juice

 

[yummy fur]

Good luck, I wish you success. I’d rather have one plant this big then 4 trying to suffocate.

What do you think now the verdict is in. 12.75 zips and only about 1.5 of that is larf but it's covered in trichomes so great for juicing. Plus I achieved my goal of increasing variety and yield did not suffer. btw these are all autos.

 

[DustyDuke]

You are a truly a talented grower my friend.
If you get bored you should try the same with soil, I don’t believe I could pull it off. Well not with your level of success

 

[DustyDuke]

@yummy fur this is my grow 4 plants 4 pots nothing adventurous LOL. Slight rust on plant on the bottom left been busy should have checked em. The humidity went threw the roof but other then that there a live still