Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[schmebulock]

You have to top off with plain water to get an accurate reading on how much it feeds from the last time, before adding any nutes back in. Maybe you did do that and I'm just misunderstanding.

ah yeah i haven't been doing it that way, haven't been worrying too much about how much she's eating - just trying to keep it topped off at a reasonable EC level

it's easier to just blast in the nutes/water at the same time from a pre-made nute bucket lol

 

[3rd Monkey]

ah yeah i haven't been doing it that way, haven't been worrying too much about how much she's eating - just trying to keep it topped off at a reasonable EC level

it's easier to just blast in the nutes/water at the same time from a pre-made nute bucket lol

The downside to that is you don't know what's waste ppm and what's feed ppm in my opinion. It's easy to overnute or lockout that way.

As long as it's working well for you though, by all means.

 

[Smokexbreak]

Top growth looks better, but I would just fim the top for now to push those sides. You could just do it full out though on that 3rd if you'd like. My only objection is that the fans aren't super healthy on that node.

That’s a good point I was fearful of that... so fim and then top a bit later?

 

[3rd Monkey]

That’s a good point I was fearful of that... so fim and then top a bit later?

That's your call, but that's what I would do. Clip the 2 lower nodes off, fim the top and pinch any growth tips above the third, leaving the fans. Give it a week, top it and clone the top, and start your manifold.

Basically, you want to redirect all your growth to that node.

 

[iceman2494]

Still haven’t decided to main line that skunk . Is it to far to start or should I just top the shit out of it and make it a bush?

 

[3rd Monkey]

Still haven’t decided to main line that skunk . Is it to far to start or should I just top the shit out of it and make it a bush?

Whatever you're feeling. No such thing as too late. I think you said you don't have room for clones, so a manifold would be a waste at this point, in my opinion.

 

[iceman2494]

Gonna need to defoliate and just top and bush it out .

 

[3rd Monkey]

Gonna need to defoliate and just top and bush it out .

King crop that bitch. You won't regret it on that monster.

 

[Smokexbreak]

Lay a base layer down. Sawdust, coco, grass clippings... anything that will leave some air pockets and not compact too bad. Usually high carbon content.

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Add your scraps. Avoid meat and heavily processed food. This is my flower bucket, so it gets mostly P, K, Ca, and Mg components added. When you first start it, blend your scraps to a fine blend and it'll start composting much quicker.

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Cover up the scraps with more carbon material.

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Then scraps, then carbon. Then add some water. Damp sponge is what you are looking for. Just enough to soak into the material without water laying in the bottom of the bucket. Then put the lid on but allow airflow... VERY important to have airflow.

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Once the bucket is about half full, put the lid on tight, shake the shit out of it to mix everything around, tap the lid and then take it off and leave your gap for airflow. If there's any scraps on top after the shake, cover them.

I use paper towel and shit paper rolls, unwaxed paper plates, amazon boxes without the ink parts, etc as a carbon too.

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The smaller the particles, the quicker it composts.

Took me longer to write this than to make the bucket lol.

What’s your scraps for flower that you use vs. veg?

 

[3rd Monkey]

What’s your scraps for flower that you use vs. veg?

I use coffee grounds and eggshells as my main source of Ca and Mg in both.

Flower, I use banana peels, bonemeal (you can buy this if you want it), chicken shit, potato skins (for trace elements) and I mix in a handful of hard wood ashes after it's done.

Veg, I use everything else that composts, plus some rabbit shit and no wood ash, bone meal, or chicken shit.

 

[schmebulock]

The downside to that is you don't know what's waste ppm and what's feed ppm in my opinion. It's easy to overnute or lockout that way.

As long as it's working well for you though, by all means.

that's a really good point - what would classify as wasteppm? I mean the entire bucket is available so eventually won't they (the extra ppms in the water) eventually get drank?

 

[3rd Monkey]

that's a really good point - what would classify as wasteppm? I mean the entire bucket is available so eventually won't they (the extra ppms in the water) eventually get drank?

The waste ppm usually consists of bound (unusable) nutrients and extra hydrogen or hydroxide ions, that's what fluctuates ph. Ph stands for Potential Hydrogen... PH.

Anyhow, without a full blown science lesson, the plants swap H ions for nutrient uptake and some nutrients cockblock each other and bind.

That's why I always suggest checking how much it feeds. When it starts to taper down and ppm starts to level off, that's when it's time to remove a gallon or 2 and add fresh.

Those waste ppm are unusable.

 

[schmebulock]

The waste ppm usually consists of bound (unusable) nutrients and extra hydrogen or hydroxide ions, that's what fluctuates ph. Ph stands for Potential Hydrogen... PH.

Anyhow, without a full blown science lesson, the plants swap H ions for nutrient uptake and some nutrients cockblock each other and bind.

That's why I always suggest checking how much it feeds. When it starts to taper down and ppm starts to level off, that's when it's time to remove a gallon or 2 and add fresh.

Those waste ppm are unusable.

it will definitely be easier for me to measure ppm down the line once i have a feed reservoir keeping the water levels topped off all the time. For now it's just me manually pumping the water in.

that's really good to know - very useful. Makes sense why this guide <-- (click for link) said if certain conditions meet, then you need to dump the bucket and put in fresh.

Never thought about all the crap sitting in the water the plant CAN'T use...

 

[3rd Monkey]

it will definitely be easier for me to measure ppm down the line once i have a feed reservoir keeping the water levels topped off all the time. For now it's just me manually pumping the water in.

that's really good to know - very useful. Makes sense why this guide said if certain conditions meet, then you need to dump the bucket and put in fresh.

Never thought about all the crap sitting in the water the plant CAN'T use...

Science has a way of making everything so complicated you need 6 degrees to understand it. It's much less complicated if you assimilate it to something you already know.

It's just + and - lol. Opposites attract. It gets a little more complicated once you get into valence, so a merry go round is a good assimilation for me lol.

Anyhow, you'll get the hang of it. Once you do it long enough, you don't even see ppm or ph codes. You turn into Neo and become the code lol. Kids just watched the matrix haha.

 

[schmebulock]

Science has a way of making everything so complicated you need 6 degrees to understand it. It's much less complicated if you assimilate it to something you already know.

It's just + and - lol. Opposites attract. It gets a little more complicated once you get into valence, so a merry go round is a good assimilation for me lol.

Anyhow, you'll get the hang of it. Once you do it long enough, you don't even see ppm or ph codes. You turn into Neo and become the code lol. Kids just watched the matrix haha.

i've already started making the nute bucket before i even go into the garden anymore, knowing i'll need it there when i go to check ppm/ph on the bucket lol

habits..

 

[3rd Monkey]

i've already started making the nute bucket before i even go into the garden anymore, knowing i'll need it there when i go to check ppm/ph on the bucket lol

habits..

Whatever works. Million ways to skin a cat. If you run into trouble though, start checking daily ppm drop and you should be able to sort it out pretty quick.

 

[Smokexbreak]

I use coffee grounds and eggshells as my main source of Ca and Mg in both.

Flower, I use banana peels, bonemeal (you can buy this if you want it), chicken shit, potato skins (for trace elements) and I mix in a handful of hard wood ashes after it's done.

Veg, I use everything else that composts, plus some rabbit shit and no wood ash, bone meal, or chicken shit.

Word I’ll get these going this weekend. Can I compost my leaves from defoliation? Probably a stupid question and I’ll be doing some research tonight on Composting after I get off considering I’m pretty fucking clueless about it.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Word I’ll get these going this weekend. Can I compost my leaves from defoliation? Probably a stupid question and I’ll be doing some research tonight on Composting after I get off considering I’m pretty fucking clueless about it.

Yea, I compost them all the time in the veg bucket. Except the big ones. They make the best blunt wraps lol.

 

[iceman2494]

King crop that bitch. You won't regret it on that monster.

Never heard of king cropping

 

[3rd Monkey]

Never heard of king cropping

Top it so it stops going up and then supercrop every node, 3-5 days between nodes. Once you get to the top and crop, wait a week and flower. King crop.