Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Smokexbreak

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So far so good. I don't want to jump the gun, but you best get some pasture lol.
That seriously would be a game changer if this shit works out. Couldn’t imagine growing DWC without worrying about ppm
Or PH!!! If this works could I still make some compost bins and get these same results? I could source rabbit manure and other manures I’m sure if I needed to but if I didn’t have to and could just compost all my nutes from regular shit I have that’d be perfect....
 

3rd Monkey

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That seriously would be a game changer if this shit works out. Couldn’t imagine growing DWC without worrying about ppm
Or PH!!! If this works could I still make some compost bins and get these same results? I could source rabbit manure and other manures I’m sure if I needed to but if I didn’t have to and could just compost all my nutes from regular shit I have that’d be perfect....
Or worrying about temps, to a degree. I've never run over 80, but never had a problem running close to it. I don't plan on ever doing a res swap either, unless I have problems.

Just compost won't work. It's got plenty of microbes and a decent amount of nutrition, but not enough to hold over a heavy veg, I've tried. It's got plenty of benefits, but a full feed isn't one of them unfortunately.

Right now, I'm using 1 lb of manure to 1 gallon of water with 1lb of compost (to help break down the manure before it goes in the bucket), and bubbling it 36-48 hrs. Then I dilute that to 1/4 cup per gallon. Haven't got tip burn yet, but it's not hungry either, so seems to be dialed in pretty close.
 

Smokexbreak

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Or worrying about temps, to a degree. I've never run over 80, but never had a problem running close to it. I don't plan on ever doing a res swap either, unless I have problems.

Just compost won't work. It's got plenty of microbes and a decent amount of nutrition, but not enough to hold over a heavy veg, I've tried. It's got plenty of benefits, but a full feed isn't one of them unfortunately.

Right now, I'm using 1 lb of manure to 1 gallon of water with 1lb of compost (to help break down the manure before it goes in the bucket), and bubbling it 36-48 hrs. Then I dilute that to 1/4 cup per gallon. Haven't got tip burn yet, but it's not hungry either, so seems to be dialed in pretty close.
#DWCGameChanger
 

schmebulock

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@ClydeWalters fantastic harvest bud - great numbers!

Day 48 - completely drained and refilled the DWC bucket. @3rd Monkey got me thinking about all the bonded minerals and such and how this is my first... since we're going into flower i decided to drain the swamp and fill it back up. Here's what pumped out:

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Nothing special - there was a little bit of a greasy film sheen on the surface - not too much.

Pumped in the new nutes - this moved PPM from 700 to 800 as she didn't nute burn at 700 and now i'm curious... lol also that 800 ppm includes calmag at 75% strenght - 15 ml for the 4 gallons whereas full strength would be 20 ml for 4 gallons - hopefully the calmag gets under control.

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Trich's are a'poppin!
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I Couldn't get a good root shot but i can't wait to pop the bucket at the end and get a final root shot.

@3rd Monkey could you elaborate on when you typically make cuts to roots? Week 3 of flower or Week 7 or whatever your method is?


On to my forum stompers - i'm very frustrated with my coco - which i believe is part of my issue here... I can't seem to get these girls happy. Seems like once they're pissed off that's it - can't get them to recover... Healthiest one seems to be the far right one at this point. I might try to flush the coco again and dump my reservoir and remix.

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ClydeWalters

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I’m fucking bored

I really do miss having a crop at my house... mornings are so empty and drab compared to what they used to be... have to wait until later when I go babysit my buddies plants... Miss the smell of them more than anything... or really just knowing that they were there made me feel so much better

Btw thx for the compliments on my Sour crack cola, that made Clyde happy
 

ClydeWalters

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Check this out my sour Crack is so resiny and oily that my blunt CLOGGED half way through...

Black oil not allowing smoke to pass :/ good problem to have? Or pain in the ass?

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I’ve sucked on it so hard it compacted itself lol oh well
 

3rd Monkey

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@ClydeWalters fantastic harvest bud - great numbers!

Day 48 - completely drained and refilled the DWC bucket. @3rd Monkey got me thinking about all the bonded minerals and such and how this is my first... since we're going into flower i decided to drain the swamp and fill it back up. Here's what pumped out:

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Nothing special - there was a little bit of a greasy film sheen on the surface - not too much.

Pumped in the new nutes - this moved PPM from 700 to 800 as she didn't nute burn at 700 and now i'm curious... lol also that 800 ppm includes calmag at 75% strenght - 15 ml for the 4 gallons whereas full strength would be 20 ml for 4 gallons - hopefully the calmag gets under control.

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Trich's are a'poppin!
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I Couldn't get a good root shot but i can't wait to pop the bucket at the end and get a final root shot.

@3rd Monkey could you elaborate on when you typically make cuts to roots? Week 3 of flower or Week 7 or whatever your method is?


On to my forum stompers - i'm very frustrated with my coco - which i believe is part of my issue here... I can't seem to get these girls happy. Seems like once they're pissed off that's it - can't get them to recover... Healthiest one seems to be the far right one at this point. I might try to flush the coco again and dump my reservoir and remix.

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Generally, I cut roots back once before flower if they've filled the bucket. I'll take around 30% off. They will really bulk back up during the stretch. Make sure you are ready to take on the foliage growth during stretch though, they'll pop. Pull whatever you need to out to the sides and what not to keep your canopy even. You're already doing a good job with it, just figured I would be redundant lol.

If it's a longer veg, past a month to a month and a half, I may cut twice, same way.

I try not to cut roots past the stretch. Sometimes they'll overload the bucket during stretch, in which case I'll just cut them back enough to where they don't get bound and twisted. They don't push a whole lot of root growth past week 4 of flower, so don't get too carried away past that point.

I'm not saying you have to cut them, plenty of people don't and have good grows. I have a feeling if you do cut them though, you'll do it every time lol. Just like foliage, it makes them go crazy after a cut.
 

Smokexbreak

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@ClydeWalters fantastic harvest bud - great numbers!

Day 48 - completely drained and refilled the DWC bucket. @3rd Monkey got me thinking about all the bonded minerals and such and how this is my first... since we're going into flower i decided to drain the swamp and fill it back up. Here's what pumped out:

View attachment 4346369

Nothing special - there was a little bit of a greasy film sheen on the surface - not too much.

Pumped in the new nutes - this moved PPM from 700 to 800 as she didn't nute burn at 700 and now i'm curious... lol also that 800 ppm includes calmag at 75% strenght - 15 ml for the 4 gallons whereas full strength would be 20 ml for 4 gallons - hopefully the calmag gets under control.

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Trich's are a'poppin!
View attachment 4346372


I Couldn't get a good root shot but i can't wait to pop the bucket at the end and get a final root shot.

@3rd Monkey could you elaborate on when you typically make cuts to roots? Week 3 of flower or Week 7 or whatever your method is?


On to my forum stompers - i'm very frustrated with my coco - which i believe is part of my issue here... I can't seem to get these girls happy. Seems like once they're pissed off that's it - can't get them to recover... Healthiest one seems to be the far right one at this point. I might try to flush the coco again and dump my reservoir and remix.

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Did you buffer your coco prior to use? What’s your ppm/ph going in and running off at?
 

Smokexbreak

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Check this out my sour Crack is so resiny and oily that my blunt CLOGGED half way through...

Black oil not allowing smoke to pass :/ good problem to have? Or pain in the ass?

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I’ve sucked on it so hard it compacted itself lol oh well
I get that whenever I didn’t fill the mouth piece enough or there’s more paper than there is weed..... never had that happen otherwise.
 

schmebulock

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Did you buffer your coco prior to use? What’s your ppm/ph going in and running off at?
i was lazy and skipped it. I paid for it by skipping it. Normally the CANNA coco nutes are supposed to compensate for the coco uptake. First time i've used older coco (bought the bags a year ago) so the coco's been sitting damp in their bags for months.

I did go back and flush all the coco with tap water (110 ppm and comes with calmag in it or a variant atleast) about the 30 day mark. They started to show a little bit of life after that and they've been slowly moving each day but when you look at the CDLC in DWC and go back and look at the coco girls - they're stunted for sure.

I'll hand feed them tonight i think, basically just flush 'em out with the nutes in the bucket. Then refill the nute reservoir with fresh stuff.

hopefully i can get them sorted before they really get into flower - couple of them already started to stretch as you can tell
 

iceman2494

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Fuck . Had to get a new phone . Right side of screen wasn’t working . Couple pics . Had some rust on the sh a couple days back . Added more nutes and seemed to clear it up . Seen a couple fungus bats on the bh coming out of hydrotron . Sprayed the top of the hydrotron with some spray . Hope it doesn’t hurt it .
 

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Smokexbreak

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i was lazy and skipped it. I paid for it by skipping it. Normally the CANNA coco nutes are supposed to compensate for the coco uptake. First time i've used older coco (bought the bags a year ago) so the coco's been sitting damp in their bags for months.

I did go back and flush all the coco with tap water (110 ppm and comes with calmag in it or a variant atleast) about the 30 day mark. They started to show a little bit of life after that and they've been slowly moving each day but when you look at the CDLC in DWC and go back and look at the coco girls - they're stunted for sure.

I'll hand feed them tonight i think, basically just flush 'em out with the nutes in the bucket. Then refill the nute reservoir with fresh stuff.

hopefully i can get them sorted before they really get into flower - couple of them already started to stretch as you can tell
Yep man that’s what I’d do!
 
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