single cola plants?

[Thundercat]

Ya I agree I want like 3-4 gardens, so I can really compare all the results.

 

[theratfords]

Curiosity killed the cat. Taking Mr. Marks advice on supercropping at week two. I wanted to slow this plants cola to allow branches to form an even canopy. How'd I do? Other pics are of Leaning plants.

-Dude

 

[MrHowardMarks]

That's what I'd have done

You didn't do it to all of them did you?

Otherwise you wouldn't know the difference, but you did exactly what I would've done to those plants, don't mess with them for atleast a week, everything should be turned towards the light in a few hours.

I super crop a bit different, I do it going into flowering, to reduce stretch, but seed to 12/12, idk...

I continue to pinch at week two, if necessary. But that's it. So, you won't need to pinch any more branches.

By doing it pre flower, the nodes form really close for a while, which creates a cola.

If you don't have any branches below the pinch, there's nothing to catch up. By pinching the top of a plant that looks like a christmas tree, the branches will catch up to the top.

Don't over do it, that's all I can say, all it takes is a little pinch, as soon as you feel a slight crunch, you're done. (For other readers who haven't done this)

 

[theratfords]

I only supersropped the one that I left lower branches on

Yeah, I researched again ahead of time as a refresher. Plants already turned toward the light. I also topped one, FIM'd one, and supercropped one more. All are in early flower still. Should be nice to be able to post so many different LST methods. At harvest end, I'll strip the plants after drying and we'll have the different methods easily identifiable with no leaves.

These pics are of a plant that for some reason grew these two tops by itself. No trimming or topping. It grew 3 shade leaves and 2 new tops from one point. The new tops have been growing 2 inches a week since. I supercropped one to have a good constant and variable. I will slowly tie the other branch down to match the height of the other branch. Should be interesting, I think.

Thanks again everyone,
-His Dudeness

 

[theratfords]

Aurora Indica is an f1 hybrid of Afghan and Northern Lights. Aurora Indica stays short and produces heavy colas. This plant has exceptional resin production and the buds are dense. Aurora produces a deep, near black hash, aroma and a heavy indica buzz. This strain is probably our most potent indica.

• Plant type: Best suitable for indoor growing.
• Plant height: Short- Mostly Indica
• Stoned or high?: Stoned- Indica Body Buzz
• THC level: Strong 15-20%
• Flowering Weeks: 7/9
• Yield (Sea of Green on one m2) : 350-450
• Harvest Month: 9/10
• Grow difficulty: Moderate

What you think? Perfect no?

-Dude'r

 

[theratfords]

White Rhino is a powerful F1 hybrid of White Widow and a curiously strong North American indica strain. White Rhino could have medicinal applications because of its high T.H.C. content. The taste of this smoke is hashy and slightly harsh, a good bong smoke. The American father of the Rhino is more indica than the White Widow father, creating a denser and somewhat shorter plant. The buzz is stoney and comes on hard.

• Plant type: Best suitable for indoor growing.
• Plant height: Medium- Indica/Sativa mix
• Stoned or high?: Stoney yet high- Allround Buzz
• THC level: Strong 15-20%
• Flowering Weeks: 8/10
• Yield (Sea of Green on one m2) : 350-450
• Harvest Month: 9/10
• Grow difficulty: Moderate

Or this one I'm thinking, what would you suggest? The benefit of Aurora is odviously it's shorter flower period. W-Rhino sounds better for pain applications though. But that going of the website info. Anyone able to varify any of this strain information.

-The Dude

 

[MrHowardMarks]

I'd go with the auroa indica, being an F1, it has the indica dominance you're looking for, I don't really like the flavor of white widow/white rhino... i don't think anyone else will get to read this

Btw, FIM and topping are considered high stress training.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

In my own experience, toppoing and fimming created almost the same results, the FIM cut created a useless bud, and the toping created a bunch of smaller buds.

Without any topping/FIMing, the results were a massive cola and less branch growth.

They both yielded about the same per plant (topping vs not) but the topping was in a sea of green, and took up more space.

The overally yield of the entire garden, without topping, was greater, simply because more plants could fit in the same space.

Hope this helps.

 

[Eharmony420]

i have been advised by everyone to smoke white rhino as I a pain patient. I a total ignorant but white rhino many have told me is a potent med plant. Best seller i see everywhere too. Trust howard more than me, just so excited as whote rhino and aurora indica are platns i loking for nighttime pain releif/

 

[del66666]

i have been advised by everyone to smoke white rhino as I a pain patient. I a total ignorant but white rhino many have told me is a potent med plant. Best seller i see everywhere too. Trust howard more than me, just so excited as whote rhino and aurora indica are platns i loking for nighttime pain releif/

yes good choice, i have knee problem and back, really rate white rhino

 

[Highlanders cave]

To the Dude... You inquired about ICE seeds earlier. That's the strain that I've decided on for this present closet grow. Hoping that they arrive in the next couple of days. I'll let you Know if you'd like. Currently there are three plants revegging in the closet. Two blueberries and a white widow from my outdoor grow. Also a couple of seedlings from both strains.
This thread caught my eye as I will be doing a SOG this time around. Did my first grow( in about thirty years) last winter. A stealth closet SCROG with white widow. Produced 9 oz. in 5 sq.ft, but it took four months start to finish. Pretty funny....girlfriend never new.
I'm shooting for 12oz a harvest over the winter and spring in this same grow space. Rather ambitious, I know. Thats where some of MrHowardMarks VERY valuable info is going to come in. Sounds like I'm going to have to explore the supercropping method. I have experiance in topping,LST, and one or two plants that I've fimmed, but with a SOG it sounds like supercropping will work.
All good info, thanks. I'll be reading for any more
peace

 

[theratfords]

Super cropping worked great! Left the camera in the car, sorry. Will post some pics tomarrow. These plants are looking Awesome. I think I'll be pleased with the result. Wish I would of had some veg time. But for the sake of the 12/12/from seed expirement it wasn't possible with only one grow room.

I decided to just grow both. I'll use two seperate containers so I can specialize the nutes to the strain. Anyone have specifics on White Rhino or Aurora Indica nutrient reguirements?

Also, an off topic hydro question. I'm gonna have to get new tubs and I'm thinking of reducing my plant number. Anyone know the Gallon requirement per plant in a hydro setup? Any info saves me from MORE research. Thanks Everyone!

-El Duderino

 

[MrHowardMarks]

The feeding charts are the same for almost all strains, I haven't seen any charts that were particular to sativa/indica dominance even.

As far as your resevoir size, I'd stick to atleast 20gal, or else it will jump around alot.

 

[theratfords]

I know manufactures wouldn't have anything to suggest. I was more looking for people that had grown the strain. Maybe Rhino needs more Nitrogen through Veg. than Aurora or something. I'd just like to be able to feed them filet minon instead of just steak ya know. I have to much free time so growing, and my family are my whole life. I'd like to be able to have more to do with them. Marijuana's needs are so smple though.

Mr. Marks, do you mean 20 gal per plant? They'll be vegged from clone to around a foot and a half. I was always told two gal. per foot in soil. Is there a rule of thumb like that for hydro?

-Dude'r

 

[MrHowardMarks]

No, it depends on what type of hydro setup, 20 gallon for your entire resevoir, not per plant. Say a recycling drip system, or an ebb and flow.

Bubbleponics are what I'm going to try, just a 5gal bucket with a net pot top full of hydroton (expanded clay), and an air stone in the bottom of the water.

As far as nutes, I'd suggest looking into Advanced Nutrients, that's my favorite, what I use.

 

[theratfords]

That's the same type of hydro I do. Never heard it called Bubbleponics. Always researched it as Deep Water Culture(DWC). Sound like the same thing. I'm gonna be doing 9 plants in the resivour. Is 20 gal. still enough for that many? Also, I was gonna beef up the number of airstone rods in the reseviour. There isn't a limit to how much oxygen you can supply is there?

Was researching strains today and came across THC Bomb. Said it yeilded upto 700grams in a 3 meter square SOG. Anyone confirm this? Says it's a PPP, Big Bud cross. Just sounded to good to be true. Anyone getting these kinds of numbers? I always keep the buds so far apart I can't see cramming that much weight on that little space. Maybe with great airflow and ventilation, under seriously optimal conditions, but still.....Anyone?

Picking brains. Snap some update photos tomorrow. Thanks all.
-His Dudeness

 

[Thundercat]

As far as I know, the more air to the roots the better. I just recently found a method of aerating the roots of soil plants, and thats how I'm doing my next garden. It seems like it will greatly increase the rate of growth, and the amount of buds, with out having to have a 5 gallon bucket full of soil for each plant.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

That's the same type of hydro I do. Never heard it called Bubbleponics. Always researched it as Deep Water Culture(DWC). Sound like the same thing. I'm gonna be doing 9 plants in the resivour. Is 20 gal. still enough for that many? Also, I was gonna beef up the number of airstone rods in the reseviour. There isn't a limit to how much oxygen you can supply is there?

Thanks all.
-His Dudeness

The more airstones the merrier.

I don't fully understand your setup, yeah DWC is another term, same thing. Bubbleponics just seems more self explainatory, that's what I always called it.

Are you doing a hydro table with the lid, and holes cut out of the lid?

20 gallons should be sufficient, but keep an eye on your pH and ppm, daily.

You might want to look at the hydro forum, and post questions there.

I started with a drip system, and it was a bitch to keep up with in a garden of that size. I switched to soil, that was 6 years or so ago...

 

[Highlanders cave]

Mr. HowardM,
I am looking for as much info as I can on supercropping an eight plant SOG. Starting with three strains and will continue the SOG with whichever strain and/or phenos appear best suited. Vegging about 1 month from seed,FF ocean forest medium,400 watt HPS

Thanks

 

[theratfords]

Well, I'm building a new one. Been procrastinating on buying good equipement. Thinking just a simple DWC from a large rubbermaid container. 9 holes in the lid with net pots and hydroton. Airstones and water in the reseviour. That's pretty much it. That's a DWC or Bubbleponics right? It just seems so much simplier for my space limitations that say a ebb n flow table or something.

I did post these questions in a couple of forums.

I'll post some pics in a minute.

Thanks
-Dude