Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

schmebulock

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Quite a bit of K in that diet. Back off some of it and calmag should pick up.
yeah this is part of my problem with autos. I follow my nute guide pretty strictly and the CDLC is flowering right now so the last feed was for a girl in veg. Last night i went ahead and flipped her over to flower in my grow journal. This step updates my nute charts into flower mode. I'm assuming she's in second or third week of flower. the next feed looks like this:

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floragro will go down, which is 2-1-6 n-p-k
 

schmebulock

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Thats exactly what I was thinking. I've been just giving far less N lately but enough to still register to the plant that its there. Just dialing it all in still. Im using AN's calmag and its 4-0-0. I've also cut down on it lately because I am not getting any cal or mag issues and I was already thinking that might be where I am overdoing the N.
whoa yeah 4-0-0 is quite a lot just for your calmag source. Typically by flower you can drop calmag down to 1ml/gal and be okay - give that a whirl if you aren't seeing any calmag issues.
 

bigggsteve89

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It's not on them. It's on your landlord. He needs to upgrade the system.
Not good man might be fucked then
Well.... at least you’re not flowering
thats the issue my closet is on 12/12 my tent is for veg ive been kinda iffy about turning the 2 lights on in the tent looks like ill have to turn the lights off when we do laundry doubt my landlord is going to upgrade my shit
 

iceman2494

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Gotta get my self up and going . Need to add nutes to bh and bump sh up . Going to give the tent a good scrub down .
 

BigOleNugs19

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whoa yeah 4-0-0 is quite a lot just for your calmag source. Typically by flower you can drop calmag down to 1ml/gal and be okay - give that a whirl if you aren't seeing any calmag issues.
Ok cool, I'll do that. I was thinking 4-0-0 was pretty high but what are those ratios even based off? My base nutes are two parts, part A of the grow nutes is 3-0-0 and part B is 1-2-6. Bloom nutes are, A: 2-4-0 and B: 2-4-8. Its all quite confusing.

Edit: I have a basic understanding. Im just saying, are those ratios based off a metric that they all follow or are they isolated from eachother?
 

schmebulock

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Ok cool, I'll do that. I was thinking 4-0-0 was pretty high but what are those ratios even based off? My base nutes are two parts, part A of the grow nutes is 3-0-0 and part B is 1-2-6. Bloom nutes are, A: 2-4-0 and B: 2-4-8. Its all quite confusing.

Edit: I have a basic understanding. Im just saying, are those ratios based off a metric that they all follow or are they isolated from eachother?
the three numbers are N-P-K, nitrogen - phosphorous - potassium and the numbers are the percentage of the solution. So youre 4-0-0 calmag has calcium, magnesium, and 4% of the solution is nitrogen

when you're dealing in parts per million, 1 or 2 % can make a big difference in the overall bucket.
 

BigOleNugs19

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the three numbers are N-P-K, nitrogen - phosphorous - potassium and the numbers are the percentage of the solution. So youre 4-0-0 calmag has calcium, magnesium, and 4% of the solution is nitrogen

when you're dealing in parts per million, 1 or 2 % can make a big difference in the overall bucket.
So those are percentage points? 4-0-0 is 4% 0% 0%
 

BigOleNugs19

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Oh yeah, all the interactions between the different nutrients is crazy, I just deal with that by trying to feed conservatively. Great to know those are all about percentages though. I use so many damn bottles, havent had any real issues yet but this will help in the future.
 

Smokexbreak

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if it makes you feel any better that's about the extent of my knowledge on nutrients - @3rd Monkey has a brain that can see it from every angle.

"calmag having issues? lower the potassium" - this would never have hit my radar lol
Keep it at the forefront of you brain. You really don’t need much calmag in a nute blend... when I see calmag now since having this problem my trouble shoot goes like this.

Do I have calmag in the diet?
Yes
What are my PK levels in the diet?
If high is the answer in back that off first.

If backing the PK off first doesn’t fix it I add calmag because it tells me the cal mag isn’t enough.
 

Smokexbreak

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Ok cool, I'll do that. I was thinking 4-0-0 was pretty high but what are those ratios even based off? My base nutes are two parts, part A of the grow nutes is 3-0-0 and part B is 1-2-6. Bloom nutes are, A: 2-4-0 and B: 2-4-8. Its all quite confusing.

Edit: I have a basic understanding. Im just saying, are those ratios based off a metric that they all follow or are they isolated from eachother?
This makes your ratio sit at

12–8-14

Your N is too high
 

iceman2494

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Put the ph ppm to 384 . Little over a 100 ppm of nutes . Was sitting at 281. Ph went way down from last night which shows she was hungry .
 

iceman2494

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Ppm stayed water dropped and ph dropped . Monkey is most likely right . Wasn’t any food left in the water . Only waste .
 

iceman2494

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He suggested that route or take a couple gals out and replace . Went with keep the soup cooking and raise ppm . Have had this problem before and just added more nutes and top off res with water . Usually come out ok . Guess we will see .
 
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