Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

LowAnkle

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I get that, but shouldn't their R1/F1s be a little cheaper then?
I mostly run f1s, my favorite to run
..most every pheno is killer weed, to unbelivable keepers, not much risk with strong stable parents and genetics.

All about what was used to make that f1, cld a been a hidden male trait fkin with things, or cld be landrace genetics and most them dont like chemicals at all.
 

LowAnkle

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R1 is also a cross between 2 females of different genetics. Same as an F1, but with female pollen.

Explains the instability but not the price tag lol.
Naw not in the real breeding world we dont use that terminology.

From another.well known breeder I seen speaking on this.a.while back.

In the real breeding world, S1 has nothing to due with feminized plants. Going down the path of the S1 is for creating near-isogenic lines (NILs), or the back-cross, if you will, until you get a seed line that very much resembles the original plant BUT with a stabilized trait of interest. This is normally done on plants that can self pollinate (monoecious plants). Its trickier with dioecious plants such as cannabis...

Lets take the White, cuz peeps like to reverse that one. First, you get that clone only female, chemically reverse it pollinate itself and you get an S1. Second, you sift through those S1 feminized beans to find that "keeper pheno". With that Keeper S1 female, you chemically reverse it to pollinate the original clone-only - that brings you to S2. You can continue this, if you have a good plan to achieve your desired goals.

Now if you take the White Clone-only, chemically reverse it and pollinate some thing else, like Purple Urkle, you get a White Purple Urkle, not an S1 urkle. Even though those seeds may be feminized, that is considered an outcross.

R1 refers to human haplotypes that define our genealogy.
 

3rd Monkey

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I mostly run f1s, my favorite to run
..most every pheno is killer weed, to unbelivable keepers, not much risk with strong stable parents and genetics.

All about what was used to make that f1, cld a been a hidden male trait fkin with things, or cld be landrace genetics and most them dont like chemicals at all.
I'm on my 3rd strain. 2 of them are bred out to F2s, then BX'd. Looking for the F3 for my newest strain. Honestly, I'm sick of pheno hunting for a while. 6th or 7th cycle on this one now lol. I could have picked one from every round, but these have my reputation attached so I wasn't going to skimp.

I don't know what you mean exactly about chemicals, but I don't know any plants that like them.
 

3rd Monkey

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Naw not in the real breeding world we dont use that terminology.

From another.well known breeder I seen speaking on this.a.while back.

In the real breeding world, S1 has nothing to due with feminized plants. Going down the path of the S1 is for creating near-isogenic lines (NILs), or the back-cross, if you will, until you get a seed line that very much resembles the original plant BUT with a stabilized trait of interest. This is normally done on plants that can self pollinate (monoecious plants). Its trickier with dioecious plants such as cannabis...

Lets take the White, cuz peeps like to reverse that one. First, you get that clone only female, chemically reverse it pollinate itself and you get an S1. Second, you sift through those S1 feminized beans to find that "keeper pheno". With that Keeper S1 female, you chemically reverse it to pollinate the original clone-only - that brings you to S2. You can continue this, if you have a good plan to achieve your desired goals.

Now if you take the White Clone-only, chemically reverse it and pollinate some thing else, like Purple Urkle, you get a White Purple Urkle, not an S1 urkle. Even though those seeds may be feminized, that is considered an outcross.

R1 refers to human haplotypes that define our genealogy.
I don't disagree, but that's the terminology they use. The cross between the white and urkle would be an R1 in modern breeding assimilation. I don't really give a shit what they call it, but they are an unstable, feminized F1 to me lol.
 

LowAnkle

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I don't disagree, but that's the terminology they use. The cross between the white and urkle would be an R1 in modern breeding assimilation. I don't really give a shit what they call it, but they are an unstable, feminized F1 to me lol.
Thats weird lol feminized f1 to me as well as just a f1 to biologist to my knowledge... they always messing with things hahaha
 

3rd Monkey

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Soo are blueberry strains worth trying ? Never had or smoked before .
If you like indica, absolutely. I used it for the terpene profile and to remove the headiness that causes paranoia only in my new run.

The blueberry comes through very well in the Scarabs too. Couldn't get rid of the woody stems though. They're there to stay lol.
 

iceman2494

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If you like indica, absolutely. I used it for the terpene profile and to remove the headiness that causes paranoia only in my new run.

The blueberry comes through very well in the Scarabs too. Couldn't get rid of the woody stems though. They're there to stay lol.
Is it a heavy indica strain the scarabs ?
 

3rd Monkey

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Thats weird lol feminized f1 to me as well as just a f1 to biologist to my knowledge... they always messing with things hahaha
Yea, I hear that. 20 years ago, there were a handful of strains, you could list them on a single sheet of paper.

Now... well, you know lol. I'm all for new crosses but half these guys don't understand what traits are considered good. They cross half assed plants with decent bud and call it a magical name. Hell of a game for mediocrity lol.
 

LowAnkle

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Yea, I hear that. 20 years ago, there were a handful of strains, you could list them on a single sheet of paper.

Now... well, you know lol. I'm all for new crosses but half these guys don't understand what traits are considered good. They cross half assed plants with decent bud and call it a magical name. Hell of a game for mediocrity lol.
Thats what im fighting, thats whys there 600 names with same generic ass buzz.
 

3rd Monkey

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Is it a heavy indica strain the scarabs ?
It blasts you in the face out of the gate, that hot face feeling, but then it spreads to your body and mellows out. You can still function fine, but you can definitely relax if you want. I would say it's a medium heavy strain. The flavor and long mellow high (usually 2hrs) is where it shines, in my opinion.
 

iceman2494

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It blasts you in the face out of the gate, that hot face feeling, but then it spreads to your body and mellows out. You can still function fine, but you can definitely relax if you want. I would say it's a medium heavy strain. The flavor and long mellow high (usually 2hrs) is where it shines, in my opinion.
That sounds like a fun ride . Haven’t done a blueberry or the gorilla glue or zittlez yet .
 

3rd Monkey

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Waiting for that second tent . I’d like to try them for sure .
Sounds good. Let me know when you're ready. So far, my strains are kicking the shit out of everything else I've grown, with the exception of Greenhouse SLH and Dinafem Critical+... but it just so happens that I bought a few of each for that very reason lol.

It's not that they are better, but they have qualities and traits that I really want.
 

LowAnkle

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If you like indica, absolutely. I used it for the terpene profile and to remove the headiness that causes paranoia only in my new run.

The blueberry comes through very well in the Scarabs too. Couldn't get rid of the woody stems though. They're there to stay lol.
If you love sativas and love blueberry terps go back a generation and get some pure thais in your stock, there.off the charts good and sweet.berries, choclates. Etc.
 
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