Newbie grow - advice welcome

[DadaInhales]

Hi anyone,

I love cannabis and I giving growing my own another attempt!

Not a complete noobie (disregard that), but I have never been able to finish a grow properly. Various reasons.

So, here we are on attempt #? and everyone says attempt #? is the one. I'm feeling pretty good about this!

Not positive about how pictures are posted on here so this is just one of the whole setup.

I think I overwatered though and could use some help on what steps to take to get the plants happy again. Pictures soon and more details on the ~grow! Today is day 3 (pic was day 2).

 

[Brettman]

Just let them dry out , and good luck man! You know what strain ?

 

[DadaInhales]

Hi and thanks!

There is a gg4, a sherbert, a napali pink, and a one more I cant remeber... strawberry cheesecake! I think..

Only the napali was looking really over watered. What I did was I filled all the pots and rinsed (with distilled water)? the 100% coco but i did not let the coco dry enough. Then I also believe I have under nutes in the first couple waterings as well.

All clones that came in rock wool (dark heart nursery), in cali.

 

[DadaInhales]

Lights come back on in a few hours or less so I will get some pics of them then for better help.

Also I am using mostly dyno gro nutes with free sample rooting stuff that came with the hlg.

Currently only have the one 4k hlg 100 In there but i got 2 more in the 3k version, they should be here on Tuesday.

Also, just today is the first dark period for them I know of. Thought they could use a break while the coco dries out a bit and they recover.

I also have a water meter now, and it did agree that the coco was pretty wet starting near the bottom of the rock wool cubes.

I was using the dynogro feeding schedule at soil but think I should be closer to the dwc levels. Not positive but they appear a little light in color and leaves curling a bit, temps have been pretty good - sub 85

 

[DadaInhales]

Here are current pictures of the plants just before the lights come on

Edit: I just found dyna grows recirculating feeding chart and I have been below what it calls for. Gonna up it a little more for the next watering.

 

[olafthegreen]

You don't want the medium to dry out when you are growing in coco it's not like soil.

Check out these links for more information on coco:
https://cocoforcannabis.com/

https://www.maximumyield.com/buffer...xchange-capacity-in-coco-growing-media/2/1318

 

[DadaInhales]

You don't want the medium to dry out when you are growing in coco it's not like soil.

Check out these links for

Thanks for the links and help! I will check them out for sure and yes I will try and keep the coco from drying out. As of now my pots are still heavyish but it's mostly the bottom 3rd of the pot, that is holding the most water according to the moisture meter!.. the coco was to wet in a pot that is to big.

Top feeding now only to make sure rockwood stays moist. 550 ppm of dyna-gro ratios, 5.9 ph

 

[olafthegreen]

As of now my pots are still heavyish

Have you got any other medium like perlite in with your coco or are they just solid blocks? Also how is drainage out of those pots?

 

[DadaInhales]

100% coco, in auto pots. Drainage seems fine but I just top fed only 250ml to the rock wool to each plant. I thought I read a lot of people like just straight coco in autopots. I got a big bag of loose coco

I have done a bit of reading on coco already, so, I am somewhat unjustly confident in myself. Time should heal that misconception.

The pots are oversized enough that I aerated the coco around the outer edges of the pots.

 

[DadaInhales]

Picture just now. I think they are looking a little better. The pink one is standing up a little straighter, hope that's a good sign.

I also turned the pots 180 degrees so the plants may look more different than they should.

 

[olafthegreen]

Ahh sorry, maybe the rock wool is super saturated, have they got roots in the coco or just in the rockwool at the moment?

If the rockwool is super wet may be worth letting that dry out as suggested.

 

[DadaInhales]

Even the worst looking pink one had roots coming out the side of the cube yesterday! I got the PC fan/s hitting the rock wool to hopefully dry it faster so I can get some nutes in

 

[olafthegreen]

Even the worst looking pink one had roots coming out the side of the cube yesterday! I got the PC fan/s hitting the rock wool to hopefully dry it faster so I can get some nutes in

I wouldn't panic too much about getting nutes in, they look ok.

I've been given the advice on here that too much love is what will kill your plants. I took that to mean don't mess around too much with things and be patient! I'd probably take the pc fan off it and just relax, they look ok.

Repotting and changing environment stresses out the plants and slows down growth. Best off just keeping it simple and letting them do what they do best.

 

[DadaInhales]

I wouldn't panic too much about getting nutes in, they look ok.

I've been given the advice on here that too much love is what will kill your plants. I took that to mean don't mess around too much with things and be patient! I'd probably take the pc fan off it and just relax, they look ok.

Repotting and changing environment stresses out the plants and slows down growth. Best off just keeping it simple and letting them do what they do best.

For sure and thanks for the help! Fortunately for them my day starts soon here and I won't be back till the evening!

 

[H.A.F.]

Good luck! I'm an old retired dude and patience is scarce due to boredom. But it's necessary! Looks like you have a good set-up, but I'm curious about the light. I run all HLG lights, and you will not be sorry, but you may want more. I'm guessing 65w or 100w just because the 135 and up have a heat-sink.

Also, be careful on the nutes. I don't grow in coco just because the constant watering gives you more chances to screw something up. Less is more. I read (on here, not in an article) that most nute schedules are based on having 1000w of light. And that the % you should feed should be based on your difference in lights. So if you have 500w then you would feed at 50%, 250w 25%, etc.

I don't know if it is factual, but based on the nute burn I have seen feeding at 50% (with an HLG 260) I am trying 25% of what the feeding schedule calls for currently and the plants seem fine.

Happy growing!

 

[olafthegreen]

most nute schedules are based on having 1000w of light. And that the % you should feed should be based on your difference in lights

That totally makes sense, and explains why feeding my plants @ 100% recommended strength always burns them! (under 600W)

 

[DadaInhales]

Good luck! I'm an old retired dude and patience is scarce due to boredom. But it's necessary! Looks like you have a good set-up, but I'm curious about the light. I run all HLG lights, and you will not be sorry, but you may want more. I'm guessing 65w or 100w just because the 135 and up have a heat-sink.

Also, be careful on the nutes. I don't grow in coco just because the constant watering gives you more chances to screw something up. Less is more. I read (on here, not in an article) that most nute schedules are based on having 1000w of light. And that the % you should feed should be based on your difference in lights. So if you have 500w then you would feed at 50%, 250w 25%, etc.

I don't know if it is factual, but based on the nute burn I have seen feeding at 50% (with an HLG 260) I am trying 25% of what the feeding schedule calls for currently and the plants seem fine.

Happy growing!

Thanks and I will take all that into consideration, though I find it hard to think dyna-gro would think I have a 1k watt bulb on a 1 week plant when making their nute schedules. Either way I will definitely keep an eye on that and thanks for the reminder!

I did say earlier (but i will update main post with whole setup soon), i have 2 more hlg100 v2 that should arrive today if someone is around to sign for them. I will have 2 @3k and 1 @ 4k

Have a wonderful day and happy grows for you as well!

 

[H.A.F.]

Thanks and I will take all that into consideration, though I find it hard to think dyna-gro would think I have a 1k watt bulb on a 1 week plant when making their nute schedules. Either way I will definitely keep an eye on that and thanks for the reminder!

I did say earlier (but i will update main post with whole setup soon), i have 2 more hlg100 v2 that should arrive today if someone is around to sign for them. I will have 2 @3k and 1 @ 4k

Have a wonderful day and happy grows for you as well!

You'll be good then with that amount of light - I was trying to be nice

HLG is amazing, but I would look into the next size up just because of the dimmable driver. My other advice is to trust your exhaust. don't add a lot of fans. I have a mini "personal" oscillating fan blowing across the tops, and that's it. Biggest difference with the QB's is that no fans are blowing hot air around. It naturally rises, and too many fans bring that "upper" atmosphere down to the plants.

 

[H.A.F.]

Thanks and I will take all that into consideration, though I find it hard to think dyna-gro would think I have a 1k watt bulb on a 1 week plant when making their nute schedules.

There is also pot-size and how much you feed. Like, if you mix up a gallon at 100% it will have a different effect dumping that into a 5 gallon pot, or pouring the whole gallon through a 2 gallon pot.

All companies want to sell nutes. Gen Hydro is the only one I have used that has a planned low ppm on their schedule. Then they recommend feed-feed-water, so you do just as much damage if you use too much.

Personally I don't feed a one week plant. Mine don't get fed until the cotyledon start dying and that skin starts peeling off around the trunk with them. Different with clones, but similar - the soil I use has what I need until they get bigger - coco? good luck

 

[DadaInhales]

Yeah for sure, a lot to think about!! I'm just gonna try and keep it simple and not drowned my plants much more. At work now, made a 'light rack' out of PVC. Its really just to keep the spacing on them correct, which I just realized this morning may need a little creativity. ~36 inches of lights 35 inches of space in the grow room.

I hope I can just mount the 2 outer lights on the bottom and the center light on the upper part of the rack.