SinCity Seeds Info Thread

Pretty sure that any breeders putting out 10-15+ crosses every few months will have herms in the pack. At least that has been my experience if you happen to find one that doesn't let us know. I will only run seeds in a test tent now since they have become so unpredictable. It sucks that no one will take the time to work and test strains before release but I think part of that is on the consumers as they want the newest hottest strain x the newest hottest strain and if the breeder waits to test gear and stablize a strain before release they won't sell as many because there are other new strains people want by then.
Quantity of crosses being released doesn't necessarily mean hermaphroditic traits will go up, bad selection in breeding programs can contribute to this factor as hermaphrodism can be present in genetic pool.

The issue is that stabilizing a strain can take 5-10 years. Stabilizing meaning going through a proper breeding process such as "cubing" which will result in a homogenized line of plants if properly executed. I.E. same height, potency, flavor/smell on average with every seed produced in this method. Generally won't see hermaphroditic traits in this case unless stress or chemically induced.

You could blame consumers, you could blame breeders, you could blame the market, you could even blame the longevity of the process of stabilizing a varietal of any plant. At the end of the day typically "old school" breeders (1960-Pre Cookie Fam..) would often stabilize a strain before releasing it into the wild or for sale.

Legalization of Cannabis has probably had the biggest effect on this as the market has expanded and the types of people who have entered it have changed so has the standard for quality. Demand has gone up as more people become comfortable with the idea of Cannabis use but quality has not necessarily followed as many legal states have given legal production to the few not the many production sites have gotten larger and quality control has suffered. Less stringent quality control has affected not just the flower, extract, edible etc.. market but also has affected the quality control of the seed/breeding market.

Many of the labs used for testing determine their own standards and independent research shows many labs fake results to appease growers who keep them in business the research is overwhelming as to how many commercial growers alter test results with lab assistance. There might be a process in place for quality control but it's largely manipulated as it stands.

Anyways long story short the same ethic once ingrained into grower communities has largely dissapated or been watered down as corporate cannabis and all of the new comers that it's brought have come into the game. The number of breeders has gone up exponentially in the last 5-10 years. Very few are hunting landrace strains and even if they are even fewer are generating their own unique strains then stabilizing them via traditional horticultural process. There's too many factors influencing the influx of amateur/F1 one time cross breeders to say it's just one thing. If you where to pinpoint it I'd say maybe legalization but that word connotates a very large array of changing conditions.

My overall thoughts.. as someone who prefers stable traditionally bred strains.. I still like that the market has created boutique pop up over night one time cross strains. It introduces variance in genetic pool for anyone who wants to do their own breeding/hybridizing without gathering landrace genetics. I used to hate it but it's just the nature of anything change is natural, I'd rather embrace it then hate it.
 

cantbuymeloveuh

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Another thought.. over fertilization can also stress plants and induce male flowers. Regardless of organic or inorganic feed.

Where your plants burning from over feeding at any point in the grow? IE yellowing/dying of leaves.. I can provide picture example if you're not familiar with what nutrient burn looks like.
No, that is what was so disappointing, they were looking beautiful too!
 
Back at it again with some :fire::fire: testers from Sin City. These should be very good love the Sin Mints and finally will grow a Sin Mint cross. No name on cross but it’s Cacao Cookies(Forum GSC x Mendobreath f2) x Sin Mint Cookies(Forum x Blue Power) this should be a real treat right up my alley. Got a fire Oilers shirt too def wasn’t expecting that but will keep updated on these

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How did you get the testers?
 

elephantSea

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Another thought.. over fertilization can also stress plants and induce male flowers. Regardless of organic or inorganic feed.
yup. I did this recently with some insect frass. it's great, but gotta be careful with that stuff like that. took me a few plants to realize what was causing it. now things are back to normal and seeds from the same packs have no issues.
 
yup. I did this recently with some insect frass. it's great, but gotta be careful with that stuff like that. took me a few plants to realize what was causing it. now things are back to normal and seeds from the same packs have no issues.
Insect frass is actually very potent. In my experience organic dry goods when not activated properly with time heat moisture and/or beneficial bacteria have a much higher potential to burn plants quickly then chemical salts.

When properly cooked/amended into soil mixes it doesn't tend to burn in proper ratios, but without it you can get nasty burns from guano amongst others.

Love organics but definitely never assume it's light or weak just because it is naturally derivated. I also noticed Frass to be particularly hot I'd used up a bag that I received as a free sample from one of these organic distributors
 
yup. I did this recently with some insect frass. it's great, but gotta be careful with that stuff like that. took me a few plants to realize what was causing it. now things are back to normal and seeds from the same packs have no issues.
That's great you pinpointed the issue, unresolved issues like that can be a nightmarish headache..
 

Thefarmer12

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You just use perlite moisture cuttings with spray then humidity dome and heat mat and get roots in 7-10 days? Never heard of this method. Do you do anything else?
I used to use that method back when I posted that but have since switched over to rooting plugs unless I have a difficult plant that doesn't want to clone and then I find sometimes it roots better in the perlite. I was growing in 100% perlite at the time but now grow in soil so i find the plugs to be easiest and best at the moment.

Otherwise yes fill some trays with perlite and it works perfect.
 
I used to use that method back when I posted that but have since switched over to rooting plugs unless I have a difficult plant that doesn't want to clone and then I find sometimes it roots better in the perlite. I was growing in 100% perlite at the time but now grow in soil so i find the plugs to be easiest and best at the moment.

Otherwise yes fill some trays with perlite and it works perfect.
Definitely satisfied with plugs personally and getting 100% success rate aside from when I'll try to root a very awkward branch with limited foliage.

Was curious about the perlite method not having done this or heard of that in particular. My only thought transplant might be a little bit more of a delicate process in perlite. Interesting method definitely like the simplicity of it.

My favorite low tech method.. no till living soil beds put cutting directly in. Healthy bed/soil culture gets 90-95% or more success rate. All you need to do is keep bed watered.

Thanks for sharing
 

bigbongloads

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Anyone got info on an up coming drop? I seen sin city say on ig two weeks ago they harvested blue petrol f2s and a line using blue petrol male. Keeping my eye out for that.
 

Djackaell

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GYO Seedbank - Ordered products from them 26 Apr. 2019 ($299.96). It's now 22 July 2019, and no product. Sent support tickets, just back and forth stalling. Came to a point of asking for a refund. No response. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS COMPANY!!!!
 

Paradoximity

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@Yodaweed heres some pics of SinMints so you know what to expect. These are not my pics. These pics are of Instagram shouts out to those people.

SinMint Cookies
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I realize this threads years old, but 'akhiymajames' how many different phenotypes do you recall having and from how many total beans of SinCity SinMint Cookies starting off with; same with differences in terpene profiles, structure, etc?
Any info would be appreciated, though I know it's been a quick minute since then. Pretty good looking plants though, I assume they're flowered at least in relatively smaller pots/containers/rock wool blocks/ DWC substrate just due to development, just an educated guess: quality is quality regardless, nice pictures and no pun intended bud.
Any thoughts on SinCity's top list of genetics and/or those beans no one should pass up on trying and buying? What about those that aren't that great but more hype and to stay away from for all our sakes?
SinCity's gears pretty solid and they have a solid reputation cause if it, but unfortunately so does E***** G******* and wow do 8/10 of their packs have primarily herm-tendencies which is a damn shame given the lineage of their parentals of course, but then to ask for $100's+/pack is, well, a lot of things and sorry to say none of them in a positive demeanor.
Any of your insight, notes, pics during stages etc would indeed be greatly appreciated. Also, if you have any info on any newer strains with the above formentioned that would be not only very intuitive but helpful to others as well.
Not used to these forums so much, so freakin' DRACONIAN around these parts it hasn't been worth the chance for me but what the hell.:weed:
Thanks for your time, lmao circa(2016),
P.S.
How would you rate regular GirlScoutCookies (( S. Florida OG Kush x F1 Durban)) whether FORUM or KEY LIME PIE cuts to SinMintCookies (( GirlScoutCookies x Blue Power)) in overall quality, vigor, terp profile, trichome production, etc.?
Again thanks for your time and patience bud!
Paradoximity
 

eastcoastled

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Looks fantastic! I would love to get my hands on blue power f2s. I never seem to ever hear about new sin city drops, and I'm always too late when I do. Doesn't look like anyone has them in stock anymore.
Thanks, I don’t think they are making them anymore. I grabbed these years ago, and this is my second go with popping them. First round was nice, but I lost all the cuts. This time was actually better, and i’m letting the two ladies I found go until I pop the last few seeds.
 

Thefarmer12

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Looks fantastic! I would love to get my hands on blue power f2s. I never seem to ever hear about new sin city drops, and I'm always too late when I do. Doesn't look like anyone has them in stock anymore.
Supposedly they're remaking some of the original lines but they've been saying that for the last 5 years so take that with a grain of salt.
 

Thundercat

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Supposedly they're remaking some of the original lines but they've been saying that for the last 5 years so take that with a grain of salt.
I was out of the seed market for much of the last 4-5 years. Before that I had tested for Sin City. I gotta say when I got back to the market and saw they had unloaded 25 different sinmints crosses but seemed to have stopped releasing the other genetics I was bummed.
 

Schmarmpit

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I was out of the seed market for much of the last 4-5 years. Before that I had tested for Sin City. I gotta say when I got back to the market and saw they had unloaded 25 different sinmints crosses but seemed to have stopped releasing the other genetics I was bummed.
I'm in the same exact position. I've got a decent collection from about 5 years ago. Bummed to see everything now is a Sinmint cross. I've got a full pack of Blue Power BX so I may have to start digging through those. I also got some White Nightmare crosses, and those have been some of my favorites to date.
 

Thefarmer12

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I was out of the seed market for much of the last 4-5 years. Before that I had tested for Sin City. I gotta say when I got back to the market and saw they had unloaded 25 different sinmints crosses but seemed to have stopped releasing the other genetics I was bummed.
Same here. Miss testing and the sin city forum days! Not a fan of the sin mint crosses...didn’t buy a single pack. Blue Power and White Nightmare lines were legendary stuff though and some of their earlier crosses were solid too.
 
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