Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[3rd Monkey]

Thanks Moabfighter.... You kind of summerized where I'm at. I'm a newbie that inherited a big space and don't quite have direction yet. Kinda paralyzed with options and overthinking... LOL

What's your goal? That's usually a good start to figuring out how to set up.

 

[schmebulock]

Thank you boss! I've tried two different styles on my first grows. I just didn't know enough about growing to make a decision to do hyrdo or soil. So I tried both...
I like the hyrdo growth, and frost compared to soil. When I tried learning from a couple growers locally, they would keep getting butt hurt about me asking around and trying different things. It was like I had people coming to check and see if I was following their "book". I shut all that shit down and started out on my own. I don't have time for that kinda shit in my life. I just want to grow some plants and chill out. I would imagine alot of this would be easier done if I had someone in the room with me teaching, but I won't do it at the expense of my sanity and "chi". It goes against the code of being Dude.

i've kind of worked my way through them all - and drain to waste coco is going to be your easiest method. 50% perlite, 50% coco coir (this is literally coconut husks that wash up on salty shores so make sure you get a brand that really washes their coco - CANNA brand is what I would recommend)

get a trash can, mix 20 gallons of nutes, pump to a manifold hung high, gravity drip feeds to each line

start once, then twice a day. 3 gallon airpots are perfect size for my space - 5 gallon may be for yours. Just know it takes that much more water to saturate the medium.

that's my current set up (coco DTW) but i'm fascinated in the results of DWC so i've been heading that direction - but it's definitely not the easiest method. You have to upkeep the buckets every day.

this CDLC you see is my first DWC bucket

 

[Moabfighter]

Thank you boss! I've tried two different styles on my first grows. I just didn't know enough about growing to make a decision to do hyrdo or soil. So I tried both...
I like the hyrdo growth, and frost compared to soil. When I tried learning from a couple growers locally, they would keep getting butt hurt about me asking around and trying different things. It was like I had people coming to check and see if I was following their "book". I shut all that shit down and started out on my own. I don't have time for that kinda shit in my life. I just want to grow some plants and chill out. I would imagine alot of this would be easier done if I had someone in the room with me teaching, but I won't do it at the expense of my sanity and "chi". It goes against the code of being Dude.

It’s not about following their book or not. But when you’re new you need to just listen basically..... if someone can grow without issues and is trying to tell you how, and you’re having problems and “not following that book” well it’s hard to help if you just wanna go off on your own style, without having basic grow skills down. You know what I’m saying? If you already knew how to grow though, you wouldn’t be asking us this stuff. So the best advice I could actually give would be to literally copycat someone decent. Not saying me. Just someone. Do what they do and follow them around. But if you stray off doing your own thing then encountering issues, you will find less people will try to help you being hard headed like that.

 

[Moabfighter]

You’re basically saying you don’t know how to grow. Had people teaching you. You didn’t succeed as you wanted because you wanted to try your own things, and the people who could grow scratched their head at you.

Sounds pretty normal to be honest.

 

[GreenMitten]

i had to swap out the carbon filter - the old one wasn't doing fuck all to clear the smell lol

our house has a scent of sweet smelling weed at all times right now...- it'll be nice when I can move everything into one tent and use my nice large filter

With just me and the wife and home, I ran this past winter with the heat going into my ducting at home to help lower the bill. Was the best smelling christmas ever!

 

[ANC]

If you want to grow in the soil start activating life in that pot a year in advance, only mulch, topdress and teas required. Leave whatever weeds grow undisturbed...
That stuff will grow some of the tastiest weed you'll ever cross. I also prefer hydro for production reasons.

 

[GreenMitten]

You’re basically saying you don’t know how to grow. Had people teaching you. You didn’t succeed as you wanted because you wanted to try your own things, and the people who could grow scratched their head at you.

Sounds pretty normal to be honest.

Oh no, its not me wanting to do my own thing at all. I think I just allowed to many cooks into my kitchen. They would bicker over what I should be doing... Someone had to make a choice in that scenario, and that fell on me. It just caused drama among people that should be friends. I didnt care for that, so yes I told them off and just started trying to learn off the internet on here. I'm not a barney badass like that. I'm thirsty for knowledge. Being new, I just needed some help getting going and some basics.

 

[iceman2494]

hopefully my ppm bottomed out by the time I get home . Need to add more cal mag this time around or add more bloom like monkey suggested .

 

[iceman2494]

Oh no, its not me wanting to do my own thing at all. I think I just allowed to many cooks into my kitchen. They would bicker over what I should be doing... Someone had to make a choice in that scenario, and that fell on me. It just caused drama among people that should be friends. I didnt care for that, so yes I told them off and just started trying to learn off the internet on here. I'm not a barney badass like that. I'm thirsty for knowledge. Being new, I just needed some help getting going and some basics.

Shit you can run a Hempy ,soil, and a dwc all at once and see what you like better . I skipped the Hempy and went straight to dwc from soil . I like the dwc better so far . I haven’t done res changes . I have a spare bucket that I lift the plants on to check ph and ppm and I adjust and put back on and done .

 

[3rd Monkey]

hopefully my ppm bottomed out by the time I get home . Need to add more cal mag this time around or add more bloom like monkey suggested .

I'm going to fix a couple bags for you that have Ca and Mg in them. See if we can bypass the calmag shit organically, then fuck calmag too.

 

[GreenMitten]

What's your goal? That's usually a good start to figuring out how to set up.

The end game for me is to basically have a perpetual grow. We have a 24 plant limit at the house. Which I feel is more than enough. I think its manageable to rotate 3 sets of 6 pots in and out of flower, while vegging 6. That would be more than enough bud. Wife and I are daily smokers, so we would like to have a good keep around the house. Wife really needs a nice bedtime strain.. she struggles with sleep. Badly! This would provide us with our smoke and the other stuff... get rid of it, make oil, edibles.

 

[iceman2494]

The less nutes the better . Just need that supplement with these qbs. I cranked my lights up to full on the 132s . Giving the tropic thunder 2 weeks to make that last push before I start flower

 

[BigOleNugs19]

Update on my dwc.
Ph has actually dropped to 5.6 down from 5.9 where it was sitting at for the last 2 days. Water level isnt changing noticeably. Ppm mysteriously went up from 190-200. All that Ive added to the res was 3ml of hydroguard 6 days ago and 115 ppm of nutes at the beginning and then a small amount of pH down. Roots are in the water and starting to lattice. Keeping temps under control with ice bottles twice a day.

There hasnt been much growth above ground in the last couple days but roots are growing below.

 

[Moabfighter]

Oh no, its not me wanting to do my own thing at all. I think I just allowed to many cooks into my kitchen. They would bicker over what I should be doing... Someone had to make a choice in that scenario, and that fell on me. It just caused drama among people that should be friends. I didnt care for that, so yes I told them off and just started trying to learn off the internet on here. I'm not a barney badass like that. I'm thirsty for knowledge. Being new, I just needed some help getting going and some basics.

Good Lights
Proper Ph
Lot of perlite soil
Clean water
Don’t overfeed nutrients. Keep your nutes quick clean and easy.

Try these 5 steps above and I PROMISE you will grow great plants.

 

[Moabfighter]

Are ugly lower leaves like crisping and yellowing and browning usually cal/mag def?

 

[iceman2494]

Update on my dwc.
Ph has actually dropped to 5.6 down from 5.9 where it was sitting at for the last 2 days. Water level isnt changing noticeably. Ppm mysteriously went up from 190-200. All that Ive added to the res was 3ml of hydroguard 6 days ago and 115 ppm of nutes at the beginning and then a small amount of pH down. Roots are in the water and starting to lattice. Keeping temps under control with ice bottles twice a day.
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There hasnt been much growth above ground in the last couple days but roots are growing below.

That’s a good start

 

[Moabfighter]

I'm going to fix a couple bags for you that have Ca and Mg in them. See if we can bypass the calmag shit organically, then fuck calmag too.

What’s up on those bags man. I need to pay you still sorry. Work a lot man. I’m money hungry I guess what can I say

 

[iceman2494]

Are ugly lower leaves like crisping and yellowing and browning usually cal/mag def?

I only have been using the cal mag that’s in the trio .

 

[GreenMitten]

Shit you can run a Hempy ,soil, and a dwc all at once and see what you like better . I skipped the Hempy and went straight to dwc from soil . I like the dwc better so far . I haven’t done res changes . I have a spare bucket that I lift the plants on to check ph and ppm and I adjust and put back on and done .

Thanks Ice. I think I'm past doing just flat out soil. Its going to be hempy/dwc for me going forward. Maybe like you said maybe I can run them together and see what I like best. Are you guys basically all doing a simple feeding program with nutes? Trying to learn that online has been a real treat. $20 stuff clear up to hundreds of dollars. The more I'm reading, the more I feel like I wasted money on an AN bundle.

 

[Moabfighter]

You guys prolly gonna say stupid Moab but I’m just giving my cloner water and hydroguard and adjusting PH. Guess I need to be checking PPM too but he’ll tap wel wayer and hydroguard should be ok as is I guess idk